One of the guys on my team qualified for regionals a few months back. He qualified as a 4 in 8 ball but was raised to a 5 this week. He was wondering if he will have to play as a 5 or will be be able to play as a 4 since that's what he qualified as? I called the local apa office and they really couldn't answer the question for him because they are not involved in the regional. Any idea?
APA Singles Regional Question
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I ran into this same situation when I qualified. I was able to play at the rank I qualified as. I do not know if all APA leagues follow this rule but that was my experience...
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In my area, I think it depends on when you were raised. Within a couple/few weeks of the event, you go in as you were. If you get raised well ahead of the event, you'll be going in as the new rating. My first time, I did the singles qualifier as a 5 and went up to a 6 shortly afterwards, so I had to go in as a 6. My girlfriend did regionals as a 3, went up to a 4 a little bit after and had to do Vegas as a 4. I've also had friends go up a little before(a week or two?) regionals and still went in as their qualifying s/l.
When it's time for the Regional he will receive a Handicap Certification form, and he can certify his level. Should he rate himself lower than his current level and it's found out later after the event starts. He will be disqualified, should he win then everything would be forfeited and a posible suspention. If your handicap is raised during the event you continue to play in the division that you are in but the races will change where he's giving up a game etc. etc.
That's how it works. Black Cat
That's how it works. Black Cat
When it's time for the Regional he will receive a Handicap Certification form, and he can certify his level. Should he rate himself lower than his current level and it's found out later after the event starts. He will be disqualified, should he win then everything would be forfeited and a posible suspention. If your handicap is raised during the event you continue to play in the division that you are in but the races will change where he's giving up a game etc. etc.
That's how it works. Black Cat
What he said, plus the regionals are held locally however packets are sent from the national office, which is why the certification form needs to be filled out truthfully.
When it's time for the Regional he will receive a Handicap Certification form, and he can certify his level. Should he rate himself lower than his current level and it's found out later after the event starts. He will be disqualified, should he win then everything would be forfeited and a posible suspention. If your handicap is raised during the event you continue to play in the division that you are in but the races will change where he's giving up a game etc. etc.
That's how it works. Black Cat
thats what i went through.
last year i qualified for regionals as a 4. i was raised to a 5 2 weeks before regionals. when i got to the regionals i asked the tournament director where do i place ? he said i would play as a 5 but i woild play in the division i qualified for.
in effect i played in the 4 division as a 5 spotting all my opponents 1 game.
i went undefeated all the way to the finals where i lost hill- hill.
Thanks guys. So he will play in the 4 sl group but have to win 4-3 vs the standard 3-3 race when a 4 v 4 plays.
that is the situation i faced. if i was your friend i would recommend he do what i did. i did not fill out the form you turn in at regionals until i explained my situation to the tournament director.
not every one thinks the same way, his td may decide different based on his particular situation. but yea i qualified as a 4, played in the 4 bracket as a 5, making it a 4-3 race vs my opponents.
let me give some advice based on my experience.
tell him to stay loose and relaxed, treat it just like a local top gun or qualifier. i was nervous and somewhat intimidated the 1st time i went. it showed... i went 2 and out. i did not know anyone there and just felt all alone.
the 2nd time i went i felt at ease. i knew several people that were also there from my league, plus i took my gf this time. it made a world of difference. i made it undefeated all the way to the finals where i lost hill- hill.
looking forward to going again next month. this time i am playing 9 ball, last 2 times i went for 8 ball.
again i am in the same boat. i qualified as a 4 and raised to a 5 last month. due to being raised about a month ago i will more than likely be in the 5 bracket instead of the 4 which i qualified as.
dont matter to me. i am just going to play my best no matter where i fall.
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Hello lorider, since you are in the 9 ball regionals you will be in the same bracket as when you qualified as a 4 since the 4's and 5's are together in 9 ball. good luck and i will see you there
Hello lorider, since you are in the 9 ball regionals you will be in the same bracket as when you qualified as a 4 since the 4's and 5's are together in 9 ball. good luck and i will see you there
i did not realize the 4's and 5's were in the same bracket.
what will you be playing there?
look me up. my name is buddy. i think it would be great to meet other az'ers.
so far i have managed to meet randy g, took a 1 day lesson from him. i met joey a at the southern classic and big truck when he came to memphis and streamed a tournament here.
good luck to you also that weekend.
big truck was pretty friendly. joey a... not so much.
When it's time for the Regional he will receive a Handicap Certification form, and he can certify his level. Should he rate himself lower than his current level and it's found out later after the event starts. He will be disqualified, should he win then everything would be forfeited and a posible suspention. If your handicap is raised during the event you continue to play in the division that you are in but the races will change where he's giving up a game etc. etc.
That's how it works. Black Cat
Regarding skill level certification, my advice to anyone who asks is to put down the number that you think most accurately reflects your playing ability. If you just went up to a 5 but really think you don't have the ability of a 5, put 4. Remember, it's ability, not average. If you aren't sure, ask yourself "If I play my best, do I have a chance at that number?"
If you certify yourself at a number higher than what is in the database for that tournament (databases created a few weeks ago), you will be raised prior to the start of play. In most cases, you stay where you are on the pre-drawn bracket and just play your matches at the higher skill level. I have seen, however, a few cases where players were moved after certifying themselves up.
If you certify yourself at a number lower than what is in the database for that tournament, nothing will change but the certification will be on record in case a DQ situation arises.
Disqualification can happen if you aren't honest with yourself or with APA. If you play significantly above your level and APA thinks there's no way you didn't know you could do that, then DQ comes into the picture. Disqualification at a singles regional is rare, but can happen. Most of the cheaters don't play singles, since it's easy to draw attention to yourself in the singles program. There are a few, however, who think they can pull it off.
when i got back from my 1st regional 2 years ago i started a thread about my experience. your post in that thread said basicaly the same thig you posted here.
when i went to my 2nd regional last year i was raised right before the regional again. i thought about your advice and contemplated putting my s/l down that i qualified as. then i thought about the possibility of being dq'ed if i had one of those good days. i decided to just put down the s/l they had just raised me to and let the chips fall where they may.
you see i have 30% disability in my grip hand and some days it feels ok and other days it feels like i would be better just to cut it off. it really affects my consistency.
well it felt ok that weekend and i went undefeated all the way to the finals. i easilt dispatched a couple of opponents 4-0. i lost in the finals hill-hill. i think i lost just because i was wore out, i am 59 and had never played in such a long ass tournament.
i honestly believe they would have dq'ed me as well as i was playing that weekend until the finals.
on days where my hand feels ok i can sometimes keep up with 7's, on days when it hurts like crazy a 3 can mop the floor with me.
A player with a physical issue like yours is always going to be facing that dilemma. My advice is ALWAYS put the number that reflects your good days, and hope you have one. The key here is that you KNOW you can play that well. You'll have to resign yourself to the knowledge that your "bad" days are not within your control and on those days you can't expect to be competitive.