APA Tri-Cup Question

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huntergate

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Scenario; Fall team qualifies for Tri-Cup tourney. 4 of the players leave the team and 4 new players are picked up. Are any of those players allowed to play in the Tri-Cups. I am assuming not because I haven't seen it covered in the manual anywhere.

If someone thinks there is something in the manual that applies to that could you give me a section in the manual that covers it.

Also a second question, one of the players that left the team went to another tri-cup qualified team. Should they have been allowed to play on that team?
 
huntergate said:
Scenario; Fall team qualifies for Tri-Cup tourney. 4 of the players leave the team and 4 new players are picked up. Are any of those players allowed to play in the Tri-Cups. I am assuming not because I haven't seen it covered in the manual anywhere.

If someone thinks there is something in the manual that applies to that could you give me a section in the manual that covers it.

Also a second question, one of the players that left the team went to another tri-cup qualified team. Should they have been allowed to play on that team?
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From my understanding, your spring roster is the roster you will have to use. I assume we're talking about the same thing, here it's called the Local Team Championships. It's the once a year tourney with all the teams who qualified and the top few teams go to Vegas. If we are speaking of the same thing, then I believe the season that just started will be the roster that you will play your TriCup/LTC's with. And, if the player that left is playing on that team this session, then they should be allowed to play in the tournament.

Not sure if there are different rules for different areas but a friend of mine just bought the local APA and this is how he explained it to me.
 
jojopiff said:
From my understanding, your spring roster is the roster you will have to use. I assume we're talking about the same thing, here it's called the Local Team Championships. It's the once a year tourney with all the teams who qualified and the top few teams go to Vegas. If we are speaking of the same thing, then I believe the season that just started will be the roster that you will play your TriCup/LTC's with. And, if the player that left is playing on that team this session, then they should be allowed to play in the tournament.

Not sure if there are different rules for different areas but a friend of mine just bought the local APA and this is how he explained it to me.
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In this area the Tri-cups are for division winners to qualify for the LTC. I joined a LTC qualified team starting Fall session and I was told as long as I'm on the spring roster I could play, FWIW.
 
huntergate said:
This is a playoff used to get into the LTC's. I'm sure they're called different names elsewhere.
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Gotcha, I'm under the impression that it's 4 matches played in that session. I'm rather sure this is correct. I only sub and have to play 4 matches so that I may play in (singles and team) tournaments. Again, may be different in other areas but in Southern Colorado it's 4.
 
huntergate said:
Scenario; Fall team qualifies for Tri-Cup tourney. 4 of the players leave the team and 4 new players are picked up. Are any of those players allowed to play in the Tri-Cups. I am assuming not because I haven't seen it covered in the manual anywhere.

If someone thinks there is something in the manual that applies to that could you give me a section in the manual that covers it.

Also a second question, one of the players that left the team went to another tri-cup qualified team. Should they have been allowed to play on that team?
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The Fall Session Tri-Cup is a post-session tournament for Fall Session, so the roster that played Fall Session is the one that plays that tournament. Any changes made to the Spring Session roster do not affect the roster for the Fall Session Tri-Cup.

Similarly, the Local Team Championship is a post-session tournament for Spring Session, so the roster that plays Spring Session is the one that plays in the LTC.
 
huntergate said:
Scenario; Fall team qualifies for Tri-Cup tourney. 4 of the players leave the team and 4 new players are picked up. Are any of those players allowed to play in the Tri-Cups. I am assuming not because I haven't seen it covered in the manual anywhere.

If someone thinks there is something in the manual that applies to that could you give me a section in the manual that covers it.

Also a second question, one of the players that left the team went to another tri-cup qualified team. Should they have been allowed to play on that team?
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i would like to add to what apa operator stated. the 4 members who left your team are still eligible to play on your team in the fall tri cup.as long as they meet 2 requirments....in our area at least.

1. they must have played a minimum 6 matches in the fall session and have a minimum of 10 lifetime matches in the format you are playing...8 or 9 ball.

2. they must be an active member on a spring roster in that lo's franchise....does not mean they have to be on the same team that qualified but the team they qualified with is the only team they can play for.

here is some thing else you may or may not be aware of concerning tri cups or ltc's.

if you play on several teams and they all qualify for tri cups or ltc;s you can play for all those teams. unless 2 of your teams play each other. those teams are in effect sharing a common player. rules state a common player can not participate in any way when those 2 teams face each other.

once those teams have faced each other you can play for them the rest of the tournament unless they face each other again.

if you have 2 teams in the finals...just sit back and chill...drink a beer or whatever and enjoy the fact that no matter which team wins ...you are going to nationals. :grin-square:

one thing that i think is unique to my area...and maybe south carolina where our lo has another franchise is this.

if your team is runner up in the finals of the ltc's... your team receives an automatic berth in next years ltc. you dont have to play play offs...or tri cups ...just go straight to next years ltc.

however you must have 4 original members of last years team when the next years ltc arrives. if you fail to keep 4 original members you lose your eligibility and have to requalify through tri cups again.
 
And to add to APAOperator and loriders points, the four "new" players to your team for the spring session will have to play at least 10 matches in the spring session if you do well in your tri cup and qualify for LTC....

That is if they are truly "new" to APA, and haven't played before. No history. If they have played APA before (in that particular discipline, 8-ball or 9-ball) and are only new to your team, then they would only have to play the same 6 matches the existing players are required to.

Good luck!
 
justadub said:
And to add to APAOperator and loriders points, the four "new" players to your team for the spring session will have to play at least 10 matches in the spring session if you do well in your tri cup and qualify for LTC....

That is if they are truly "new" to APA, and haven't played before. No history. If they have played APA before (in that particular discipline, 8-ball or 9-ball) and are only new to your team, then they would only have to play the same 6 matches the existing players are required to.

Good luck!
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thanks for adding that dub,,,,i left that important part out.
 
huntergate said:
Thanks for all the input. You have cleared things up for me.
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One last thing...while I'm quite certain that what APA Operator, lorider and I have said is all accurate, you should definitely make sure that these are the guidelines that your particular LO will be using.

Sometimes things go differently in various territories around the country, with their own specific local bylaws. Check first, before assuming what we have said is the way it will go for you.
 
What everyone has said looks to be accurate. This was actually played a couple of weeks ago.

I was one of the new players on the team but not new to APA and the captain was certain I would be able to play.

I wasn't so confident, but did leave Derby City Classic drive 2 hours and sat 4 hours before I was told I couldn't play that was the only frustrating thing for me.

There has been a lot of discussion since among some of the people supposedly in the know. I was just trying to seek out my own answers.

Thanks again
 
In our league, since the Tri-Cups are considered an extension of the previous session, when we played the winter Tri-Cups, we were actually able to use a player who wasn't playing at all in the spring session (and he didn't have to pay his 2015 dues)...
 
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