Are Gold Crowns Still Being "Diamondized?"

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DrCue'sProtege

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I know years ago there was a thread about Diamondizing a Gold Crown. Is that still a possibility? Is it still being done?

I must have the stingiest GCIV ever produced and unless something changes in the not-to-distant future I might actually consider it.

r/DCP
 
I'm searching for answers. If Diamondizing my GCIV will finally help me make a ball and get more chances at a runout then I am all for it. The way it is now makes the following the norm when I head down to my table:

1) Work on 2-3 shots/speed.
2) Rack balls and break.
3) Nothing goes in.
4) No decent spreads.
5) My attitude gets bad. I develop the "Here We Go Again" outlook.
6) After 44 breaks and only 1-2 decent chances to run out I say the heck with it and quit.

r/DCP

p.s. I have always thought from the first day I got this GCIV that it sort of played slow, heavy, whatever you want to call it.
 
Well Diamondizing it will make the cushions bounce more. So perhaps it will get more balls near the pockets during the break. If you go that route, just keep the pockets buckets, and not 4.5" Diamond standard. Otherwise you'll probably make it worse for pocketing balls on the break.

Good luck.
 
check to see if your cloth is 860 and if it is stretched tight.
shoot up and down the long way and see you you can get 4.5 table lengths with the cue ball.
check humidity in room.

and maybe just maybe you break lousy or cant play well enough to run out. just guessing, you provide that answer.

if not getting open racks with a shot you are not leaving the cueball in the center of the table and hitting solid.

here is a simple test. set up a spot shot. can you make it at least 8(should be 9) out of ten times and control your cueball to be close to where you wanted. if not then your game is weak enough more hard practice in hours and hours is needed to make a big improvement.

if all of the above is right then the table is shit.
 
maha said:
check to see if your cloth is 860 and if it is stretched tight.
shoot up and down the long way and see you you can get 4.5 table lengths with the cue ball.
check humidity in room.

and maybe just maybe you break lousy or cant play well enough to run out. just guessing, you provide that answer.

if not getting open racks with a shot you are not leaving the cueball in the center of the table and hitting solid.

here is a simple test. set up a spot shot. can you make it at least 8(should be 9) out of ten times and control your cueball to be close to where you wanted. if not then your game is weak enough more hard practice in hours and hours is needed to make a big improvement.

if all of the above is right then the table is shit.
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Yes, the cloth is Simonis 860.

Yes, it is stretched tight.

Yes, I can get the 4.5 table lengths. Tried this before.

I have a dehumidifier.

Rarely do I ever get a shot no matter where the CB ends up. And almost always when the CB is near the center I have no shot or it gets kicked around and I have no chance.

The pool gods must be against me.
 
I think I'm about your speed, I had a player a bit better than me recently help me on the break. I was making the wing ball and playing the CB really well to the middle of the table, but ending up with super thin cuts on the 1. The 1 would end up on the end rail. Instead, this person showed me to play the CB to draw it back to the end rail, instead of stopping in the middle of the table. You will often get much better looks on the 1. If that sounds like it might be happening to you, give that break a try.
 
yes for most players hitting the head ball in "about" the center and stopping cue ball around center table is best. if the head ball is going someplace that doesn't work then you make small adjustments in cueball position and speed to see if that first helps;
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
I know years ago there was a thread about Diamondizing a Gold Crown. Is that still a possibility? Is it still being done?

I must have the stingiest GCIV ever produced and unless something changes in the not-to-distant future I might actually consider it.

r/DCP
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No one in their right mind would diamondize a GC4. If you got a GC1-3, I would if the cushions needed replacing
 
If the rails are good, cloth is 860 and tight, pockets are bigger than 2 1/4 inches, balls are quality and clean then …
Go to bathroom and look in mirror, you’ll find the problem

Find a better player to help with your technique
 
if your goal is just for shooting practice or maybe your goal is to be a pro.

but if its for fun and to get position by being able to cheat the pockets and get around then get larger.
and if other friends or family use it they wont have fun not making anything.
4.75 at the smallest and 5 for fun. and whatever you choose will make you a better player.
 
I am firm believer in 4 3/4 inch pockets for the person who has a home table and would like a table enjoyable for all family members, friends, and casual match play. A very, very small percentage of people who play this game actually would enjoy a table with small pockets. The people on this site who advocate for very small pockets are either hard core players or delusional about their abilities and /or aspirations in pool.

For the person who works full time, has significant family involvement time, has a home and property to mange, has a nice group of friends, family who visit the home on a fairly frequent basis --- ask yourself what your true aspirations are regarding pool and a significant investment in a home billiard room. I had a home billiard room for over 30 years- three different tables, by far, by far, my best choice was a Brunswick GC with standard 4 3/4 inch pockets-- Everyone who visited had a great time, I was able to become a more than decent player for life, and both my sons will play this game forever at a very decent level- consider the BIG picture on any major purchase.
 
Ascue said:
What size pockets you got. I'm getting one and thinking 5 inch for me
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It came with 5". When I bought the table in 1998 I had no idea about pocket sizes. There is nothing wrong with 5" pockets and most likely an ideal choice for recreational players with home tables.
Get the 5"..you and your friends will have fun with the table, They can always be tightened in the future.

In 2010 the cushions were replaced and reduced to 4.75
 
GoldCrown said:
It came with 5". When I bought the table in 1998 I had no idea about pocket sizes. There is nothing wrong with 5" pockets and most likely an ideal choice for recreational players with home tables.
Get the 5"..you and your friends will have fun with the table, They can always be tightened in the future.

In 2010 the cushions were replaced and reduced to 4.75
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Did you notice a big difference going down to 4.75? A friend got a diamond with pro cut 4.5 and our pool group thinks it's too hard. Sorry to ask so many questions but most people on here want the pockets at 4.25 or even 4. I think you have to be a helluva pool play to like that. I live in a remote area where all leagues are valley 7 foot with 5 pockets. I'm thinking the 9 foot table will add enough challenge.
 
mikemosconi said:
I am firm believer in 4 3/4 inch pockets for the person who has a home table and would like a table enjoyable for all family members, friends, and casual match play. A very, very small percentage of people who play this game actually would enjoy a table with small pockets. The people on this site who advocate for very small pockets are either hard core players or delusional about their abilities and /or aspirations in pool.

For the person who works full time, has significant family involvement time, has a home and property to mange, has a nice group of friends, family who visit the home on a fairly frequent basis --- ask yourself what your true aspirations are regarding pool and a significant investment in a home billiard room. I had a home billiard room for over 30 years- three different tables, by far, by far, my best choice was a Brunswick GC with standard 4 3/4 inch pockets-- Everyone who visited had a great time, I was able to become a more than decent player for life, and both my sons will play this game forever at a very decent level- consider the BIG picture on any major purchase.
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Great response. What i needed to hear.
 
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