Ask Fast Larry Any Question

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billfishhead
Senior Member
Registered: Jun 2003
Location: nw fla
Posts: 100 larry,,,,,,,could you plz give shorter answers,,,,,,,????????


Bud: Is there any chance Larry can limit his "on my new DVD" talk and actually give instruction or do we have to sort through 1000 words.


shooternvegas
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Registered: Jan 2004
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You asked: Also, any drills for improving positional play and stopping the cb in a target area accurately? What I have coming is going to blow your socks off, it's call the drill of doom. Once you learn it, your opponents are doomed. You can hit any spot on the table with this method using no English, no side, sounds impossible I know, but its coming.




I have been lurking here for a while now and I have to say, you offer nothing in the way of advice Fast Larry. All you do is pander your videos and lessons with no real answers to anyone's questions.

This is a perfect example, you spent a huge amount of time trying to sell your videos and didn't even answer the important question, how to keep the cue in a target area.

You are a joke.


Top Spin
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 34 HEY, SHOOTERNVEGAS - GET LOST!

YOU DON'T LIKE THE THREAD? DON'T READ IT, IDIOT.

CRAWL BACK INTO YOUR TRAILER AND BRUSH YOUR TOOTH.
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HI THIS IS FAST, LET ME SORT OUT THIS MINI THREAD HERE. I have people giving me a hard time because my answers are too long; they want little quick sound bites. The guy asks a question that for me to answer it correctly with what I know is a two hour long lesson I charge $100 for and it is backed up with 40 pages in writing. I try and tell him there is not room on the board for the answer; they do restrict you to about 2 pages maximum then shut you off. I did answer the question, he just did not like the answer, and he wants me for free to condense my 2 hr lesson and 40 pages of data into some quickie sound bites he can understand. When I did not do that, he trashed me. I am damned if I do and damned if I don’t with these kinds of people, you cannot make them happy. He got my answer; he just did not like my answer. The answer was no, it won’t fit on the board. You get your answer in great detail this March, on DVD and it will only cost you $14.95 for it. I am under no contract to give everything away free on this board or on any board. I sell this stuff to feed my family and to make a living, I am a pro. The amateurs who are trying to act like pros do give everything away free that is the difference between us. Some of my stuff, you must buy or you do not get it free. If that chaps your ass, then you can just kiss my ass bubba shootervegas. When I am in Vegas, the power source pool school will be booking lessons for 2 days right after the BCA show the first week in April. Don’t be a cheap She yit, spend the C note, take the 2 hr lesson and get a private lesson on the drill of doom, then go out and kick every ones butt after you learn it. You will make the C note back the first time you match up. Chick’s aint free in Vegas neither is Fast.
 
Sorry to hear about your eye, I am short sighted but cannot get on with glasses, probably wasted money on them as Iwas told by
a snooker professional that I should have seen a specialist to get the correct focal point on the lense. Not sure what he meant exactly but I think it was something to do with sighting between cue ball and object ball. I now play by sense of smell! (g).
 
ashshaft said:
Sorry to hear about your eye, I am short sighted but cannot get on with glasses, probably wasted money on them as Iwas told by
a snooker professional that I should have seen a specialist to get the correct focal point on the lense. Not sure what he meant exactly but I think it was something to do with sighting between cue ball and object ball. I now play by sense of smell! (g).

My best friend, Michael Bernstein is an eye surgeon, I went through every type of glasses, gave up on all of them. I only use glasses now to drive a car with because even with them, by the time I read the sign I am by the exit. Without them everything is one big blur.
That is how I see the balls, I can no longer see the edges so any long shot is just line it up, pull the trigger and pray. If it goes it, it is luck or just past experience. I have been to the top 3 retina guys and I have MAD, the backs of my retinas are cooked, I am like a 35mm camera turned out of focus. Letters turn into chinese and break up and float. It is a miracle I still can still keep doing what I am doing and pull it off. There is no surgery or fix they said and the doctor said I have the eyes of a 90 year old guy. I said to the doctor, hell that's because I am 90. I am older than dirt but not that old yet. I have entered the 7th decade I have been playing pool in, I began in the 1940's during WWII, so I guess it's about time some stuff begins to break down and go south. My nerves are still pretty solid, I don't do drugs and drink lightly, so I still can make some shots. I'll try to put some stuff on the DVD's you might like. I plan to perform 30 draw trick stroke shots on the first one which teaches my concepts on how this shot should be performed. :D
 
ajcu612
Junior Member

Look Junior, wipe your nose, put your diper back on and try and learn something here, there is real teaching going down here and your too damn stupid to see it.
What I have learned has eltivated my game up an entire notch already. You got nothing better to do that keep coming in here to trash this pro trying to help us. I admire him for having the guts to tell you to kiss off, let me 2nd that motion.

Like the guy said the last time you came on with your negative bs, crawl under your home and wash your tires, then go inside and brush your tooth. I bet you look like one of these guys in the deliverance movie, some inbreed redneck who cant read past a 3rd grade level, no wonder Larry's long posts annoy you, they are beyond you. Try the sunday cartoon section, you can read that and be much happier. Larry is above and beyond you, it is obvious you do not understand what he is teaching so just butt out butt head. :mad:
 
LastTwo
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: California
Posts: 77 I will use a downwards choppy stroke if I am trying to kill the cue ball with inside English for example, but otherwise I go straight through and upwards with my tip. To help me do this I look at the top of the object ball and try to touch it with my tip.
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Yes sir, I do the same thing, I call it a drag shot and usually just hit it very low at 6:00 which gives me maximum accuracy on the shot. Hitting inside does complicate the shot and increase the chance of missing but it will even shut it down more. Sometimes when you need maximum put on the breaks this is a cool shot to own and know.

Your follow method is exactly what I teach and what Mosconi, Greenleaf and Hoppe did as well. We differ a little, I pick a spot on the ball, exact center, put my tip there so to have an exact reference and starting point. To produce the shot I may say, its one tip up, half tip right, now I do just that, raise the tip straight up the ball one tip, then slide it over l/2 tip, I now stay on that place and stroke to and from it until impact, then follow straight through that point and rising a little after the cue ball leaves my tip. You learn how to produce this stroke by just forcing into and beyond the ball. Yes you can drop your elbow to do it, why not. There is no law of pool that says you cannot do that.
 
THE DRAG SHOT, A PROS INSIDE SECRET

LastTwo
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Registered: Sep 2003
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Posts: 77 I will use a downwards choppy stroke if I am trying to kill the cue ball with inside English for example, but otherwise I go straight through and upwards with my tip. To help me do this I look at the top of the object ball and try to touch it with my tip.
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fast replies, a pro shot every player should master. Yes sir, I do the same thing, I call it a drag shot and usually just hit it very low at 6:00 which gives me maximum accuracy on the shot. Hitting inside does complicate the shot and increase the chance of missing but it will even shut it down more. Sometimes when you need maximum put on the breaks this is a cool shot to own and know.

Your follow method you described is exactly what I teach and what Mosconi, Greenleaf and Hoppe did as well. We differ a little, I pick a spot on the ball, exact center, put my tip there so to have an exact reference and starting point. To produce the shot I may say, its one tip up, half tip right, now I do just that, raise the tip straight up the ball one tip, then slide it over l/2 tip, I now stay on that place and stroke to and from it until impact, then follow straight through that point and rising a little after the cue ball leaves my tip. You learn how to produce this stroke by just forcing into and beyond the ball. Yes you can drop your elbow to do it, why not. There is no law of pool that says you cannot do that. This is usually taught to Snooker players or by BCA instructors, thou shall not drop thy elbow, I say bull, you want to grip it and rip it, the elbow must go down, so do not be concerned about this, most pros do this anyway. :D
 
Jerk please craw out from under your rock

ajuclub612 or who ever in the hell you are, If you are going to keep hounding this guy and flaming him over and over, how about telling us why you are doing this. Tell us who you are, what's your name, what do you do? If you can't do that, crawl or slime and slither back under your rock you little punk coward.
Like FL said, you can bit my wenie also, I am sure we can get a congo line up for that one real quick. Maybe we could get that one on HBO or on ESPN, that would be a lot more fun than seeing the 19th re run of trick shot magic.
Teach or lead, or shut the F up and follow and learn. Nobody wants this stuff any more. Get off the guys back. :confused:
 
Level cue is the stroke of champions

NATE writes Fast:
Hey Fast, I really enjoy reading your posts, I am with
you all the way when these jerks try to insult you.
I have a problem that I believe you might be able to
help me solve from what I read in your posts. I am in
a slump right now, I've been in this slump for about 6
months. At one point I even took a 1 month break, but
came back and still played the same. I discovered what
my problem is, I noticed my tip is always diving into
the cloth for every shot. A friend of mine noticed
this too and told me that my tip used to always go
through and upwards after contact with the cueball. I
do not understand why I am unable to do this anymore.
I believe a problem in my mechanics is preventing me
from doing this, but I am not sure what to look at.
Should I check my grip, my stance, etc.? What does my
body need to do mechanically to get my cuetip to not
dive into the cloth? If you have any advice I would
greatly appreciate it.

Thanks again!
Fast Replies:
Your friend is right, he must be reading my posts. No, you do not have to change your hold or your stance. You are probably jacked up with the cue on every shot. If you are it can be very difficult to learn to shoot with a level cue, level means that, the cue is parallel with the table bed. Have somebody watch you and when you jack up have them pull the butt of your cue down to level. Now stroke that way, level and follow through the ball the same way maintaining level through and past contact with the cue ball. If you have to drop your elbow to push the cue forward then do that.
You can also lay the cue flat on the rail, using a rail bridge and shoot shots getting the feel of what real level cue is. Of course every shot you will shoot in a game is not level, they will be at a variety of angles. Pro’s use level a lot, you see them rubbing the rail when they shoot. New comers seem to all be jacked up way to high on their strokes. Go out and try it, you might learn to like it. Learn the joy of playing with a level cue. Your accuracy will really be improved and you will put less throw and serve into your shots.
 
THE DALI LAMAS TEACHINGS

A player writes fast:
I would first like to thank you for taking the time to answer my e-mails. I really appreciate it. I always had great respect for someone who is very successful to take time out to help other people. Unlike successful who are pricks and won't teach you anything. Again, I would like to thank you.

By the way, I was reading a few of your posts. And what you said here, kind of made a big impact on the way I think.

"One of the teachings of the Dali Lama is any venture you under take that brings pleasure and satisfaction to you, is worthwhile and should be under taken. Whether it is a financial success or not should not be in the equation."

Too long, have I've been working too hard on things that would bring in money, and it's taking a toll on me. Not really making things any better. However I had thought of just doing what I like doing, and what you said there made it totally clear to me, and made alot of sense. I just needed something to kick myself into gear. So thanks again! :)

Thanks again for all your help. I greatly appreciate it! And if I ever get anywhere in pool. I won't forget what you taught me.

FAST REPLIES; WHEN THE STUDENT IS READY, THE TEACHER APPEARS…
Donot reprove the fool lest he hate you; reprove the wise man and he will love you. Proverbs 9:8
This is why this thread exists and keeps going, there are some who find value in it and are learning from it. Others find no value in it and hate it. If what I am doing is helping just one person and everyone else hates what I do, I shall continue with what I am doing.
 
whats the best tip?

How important really is the tip? I was using an elk master and recently changed to a lepro, it seems to be drawing much better and the sides puff out less.

What do you use, what do the pro's who play 9 ball like.
Give me the low down and inside skinny on this.
 
Fastman, tell me about joints in cues, I bought mine becuse I was told it was stainless steel, nothing stronger and it was the same one Balbuskea used, he was the best, so thats the best.
I was taught the joint is the most important part of the cue, but I have read you disagee with this.
Why do you think this and what kind of joint do you use.
 
Fast, please tell us how to improve. We all want to play better. Why is it so few of us move up. We play, we practice, little happens. Explain this if you can please.
 
You go to a golf course or to a tennis center and there is always a pro teaching. Rarely do I see a pro teaching in the nice billiard palors I frequet. Why is that? Why dont pool players take lessons more often, or is there a shortage of teachers?
 
Re: whats the best tip?

jacko said:
How important really is the tip? I was using an elk master and recently changed to a lepro, it seems to be drawing much better and the sides puff out less.

What do you use, what do the pro's who play 9 ball like.
Give me the low down and inside skinny on this.

FAST SINGS LIKE A CANARY ON TIPS;

Years ago I used to think like most around me at the time, a soft tip and an ivory ferrule was the answer. I liked a champion chandeviert tip with the red felt backing. Later I moved up to le pros, then I discovered what gave the top performance and less deflection was soft thin ferrules, not stiff thick hard ivories, they deflected the most. The cheapies soft thin ferrules worked the best; the most expensive Ivory ferrules worked the worst.

I found also what I thought was right about tips was also wrong. Soft tips do nothing good, nothing. Any hard tip plays circles around any soft tip. All soft tips do is mushroom out on the sides and you file them off fast and they need to be replaced constantly, which is why the people who put them on push them. I used elk masters on my Masses to grip the cue ball. Ray Schuler finally proved to me the very hard triangle hit the masse shot better than the soft tip, and that held true across the board. That one was very hard for me to accept, because it was the opposite of what I had come to hold as this law of pool carved in stone. Damn it was tough to accept, what I knew as law, was now dead ass wrong.
That is why Tweetens entire line is mostly soft tips; there is more profit in selling a product that wears out 10 times faster than selling a hard tip that lasts 10 times longer. If you ran Tweeten, what would you push, think about that.
The Jacksonville experiment proved that on impact the cue ball is gone within 1000th of a second, so where is the time to grab the ball. Realize there is no grab, get rid of that concept, then you can get rid of your soft tip on your cue.

Morri comes along and suddenly most 9 ball pros who were playing with elk masters suddenly realize a hard tip is best. Most pros move to very hard tips as soon as the word spreads and they also move to soft ferrules. The young guys make the move, the ones who stay with the old stuff are usually the old dogs, you know the patter, old dogs never learn new tricks.

Ok, now we know hard tips are best, so now the question is, which one is best, which ones can I afford? If you are a 9 ball player then your life is simple, you just go buy a Morri, put it on, it stays on for a year, no worries mate.

For me life is not simple, it is very complicated. I use two cues, a Meucci and a custom Schuler, one with a soft whippy shaft, the other with maple or Bangkok birch very stiff shafts, I now have the best of both worlds. I can play with as many cues and shafts as I want, you cannot. I guess you could, you just have not figured that out yet. Jack Nicklaus does not show up with 2 clubs to play golf, he shows up with 14, every club makes a different shot. So why is not that the same in pool? It is, so I show up with 5 or 6 cues and 17 shafts, like Jack does in golf. I actually carry them in now in a golf bag, like jack does. I was using 12 different tips on different shafts to make different shots. A lot of study went into this. It took a bloody year to figure this all out, I got most of this from Raymound Steylearts of Belgium, the premier Billiard artist of all time as far as I am concerned.
Then I realized the triangle tip which only costs 50 cents, if I pressed it down in the middle, I got the almost same performance out of it as the Morri which costs $20. This tip outperformed all of the single layer tips made. Suddenly I could now use one tip for everything. My life was simple like yours. Meucci gave me some cool water buffalo single layer tips as did other people, I could do some cool things with them but they were all too hard, harder than the triangle, over the line and they would not hold chalk well and they also mis cued too much. I found the Talisman water buffalo layered tips to be also hard to use and chalk and did not like any of them. Look I pet water buffalos when I go over there and my purse I carry is made out of water buffalo, I like the big boys, cool horns.

The main tip was the Morri which is layered pig skin. They are now hard to get, expensive and there are a lot of fakes running around. How do you know the guy who put it on, actually put on a Morri and did not slip on a cheaper imitation? If he runs out of Morris, bet on it he does this to you. Is he going to lose the sale or put on what he has, once it’s on, there is no way for you to know. They keep getting harder to get and the price keeps rising on them. It is becoming a real problem and the reports coming in is the quality and the performance on them is going down as they now mass produce them instead of the old days when they were made by hand one at a time. The golden days of this tip are over.
I decide to run my test once more, but this time tests the dozen or so Morri imitations, find out once and for all, what is the primo tip on the market.
IMHO I am the ultimate testing machine, I can stroke it with any one and I am a graduate engineer. I have the respect of many of the genius’s of the game, like Michael Shamos and Rick Malm. So I run my test and this is what I came up with. The Ultimate tip on the market today is:

The Talisman pig skin. May I say now, they did not pay me a nickel to say this; I am only telling you what I discovered. I do not even have the damn thing up on my web site to sell you. I must know what’s best; I pride my self in always knowing what works best. I share this with you now.
This tip plays circles around the Morri which is too damn thick and has no shape, they have lost the quality they had, and they are made like you drop rings in a soup can. It comes out looking like a soup can. It’s just a big round stack of layers. There is big time shaping to make it play, and then it would take me weeks or months to pack all of that down so it gave me my top performance.

The talisman is much thinner, thinner tips play better than thick tips. Look at Mike Massey’s tips some day; you will never see a fat tip on that guys cue, ever. The talisman is like the Paris Chadevierts, they are highly polished, the crown is already rounded into a nickel shape and you can clearly see the quality of the tip is far above the Morri, the two are not even close in this regard. The talisman far out classes the Morri in appearance and in quality.
The Talisman out performs the Morri on every test I conducted. The price of them is less and the supply is un ending. What else do I need to hear…I am sold totally?

This tip comes in soft, med, hard, x hard. I recommend you guys play with the soft for club players, top players who are now used to a very hard tip use the medium. These are hard tips, so do not be confused. The medium Talisman is like a Triangle. Yes I am using the hard, but I am very skilled at getting out on the edges of balls and getting by with it.
I found the S, soft followed the ball best, and the Med or hard is the best tip to play pool with. I have the ball burning rubber spinning like a top coming off third rails, I have never produced so much spin before, and I am in awe of this.
The X tip is the best one to put on your break stick. I broke the balls with a Meucci last night, not even my Schuler break stick I usually do use for this which is much stronger. On the first snap with the X tip, on a gold crown 4, 9’ table with very slow house cloth, I made 7 balls on the snap off of a 8 ball rack, I damn near dropped my teeth. On the 2nd snap I moved 11 balls up past the side pockets, usually when I move 7 up I feel that was a bone crusher break. On the third snap 3 balls flew in, 9 balls went up past the side pockets. I sat down and almost began to shake.
I am not now selling it, but I am thinking about doing so. I am now going to play every shot on my DVD’s using the Talisman, plus when I enter the IAPA world artistic tour this March, all 17 of my shafts will have a Talisman on them, from now on I will use no other tip. I do have a can of 50 Morris I would like to get rid of fast, any body want to buy some cheap. I am off that tip now.
Seriously boys, this is the total inside scoop, she yet you not, swear on a bible, have my momma be struck dead with a bolt of lightning if I lie to you on this. This is the one. All you got to know from now on when it comes to a tip is remember one word: Talisman.

When a hotter one comes along, I’ll then switch, and clue you in on it then. Until then, get on this thing now and discover performance beyond your wildest dreams. Yo baby, the hair will stand up on your neck, yo pecker will get hard the first time you draw this thing. I am shooting the cue ball down 9' table length, hitting a ball flush, drawing back without hitting a rail 9' up table and back down 4 diamonds 13' past the side pocket on a very slow bad house cloth. The cue ball is burning rubber. This is why I am now telling the world, this is the tip and I'll put my name and reputation behind that statement. :D :cool: :p
 
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whats the right tip to use?

Terrance writes FL:
Hi Fast Larry,
Firstly I really appreciate and admire your magnitude for your willingness
to spend your time to teach people on the boards, even if you get targeted
at by some selfish players who doesn’t want you to teach others how to
improve their game. Thank you so much. Your teachings have help many,
including me. I have saw on the azbilliards board that you said email you
if I got your demo tape instead. Am I eligible to get the 3-2000 tape
volume 1? I will definitely be buying your DVDs when it launch. Will you
sign on the DVD personally if I order it from your website?

Fast Larry responds: What happened was I was out of the 3-2000 so I gave you the only tape I had, the 2-2000. It’s a 2 hrs tape, cool shows on it, but the 3-2000 has a full extra hour of shots and yes I’ll send it to you as a replacement at no charge to you.

Terrance: I have changed my tip to the talisman hard tip. Would say tat i have to
learn to hit much softer for certain shots, as the cue ball jump at times
when i hit the cue ball slightly harder than normal. the forced follow
using that tip is great. or would it be better for me to use the medium
instead? Is a fiber pad necessary before you glue the tip? What is the
material of the thin ferrule called? Because the cue shop that I went to
doesnt really understand by thin ferrule.

FL responds: the Talisman has two tips, the dark green are the water buffalo, I was not wild about them, hard to hold chalk. The brown, the pig skin layered I have gone crazy over. They are fantastic. Any time you change cues or tips, yes the hit is going to be different than what you were doing. You must search and find that new hit that works. When you do, the performance will emerge. In this case and with better cues or tips you find that by hitting softer than you did before. If that does not work, then try hitting harder. Somewhere between the two is the key.

The cue ball should not jump and that is not the tip doing that. You are jacked up hitting down on the ball which causes it to jump. You are now getting much more power out of this Talisman that what you got out of your old tip and it’s jumping now. Level your cue out and hit straight through the ball and the jump will go away.
For your game I would have recommended you using the medium, that tip is plenty hard. If you already have the hard on then go with it and see how you do. If you can’t handle the extra hard and are Miss Cueing, then drop back down and use the old tip on your break stick. If it is cut off well it can be re used.

There is no pad required under the tip, they do that on Ivory ferrules to dampen the shock of the hit, and Ivory is very hard and stiff and deflects way too much. It is a thing of the past, not good. Most ferrules being used today by most cue mfgrs or cue repair people are fiber ferrules and they work and produce fine performance.

Meucci of course has their own ferrule they came up with that helps reduce deflection and so have predator. To get into that, you need to buy a Meucci cue and shaft or a 314 predator shaft that will fit on your existing cue. The predator ferrule is thin walled, that is what that means, a thinner wall than your ferrule now has. There are down sides to that, strength, they will buckle or break easier because they have reduced wall thickness in favor of performance. I guess you could do the same thing, take your 13mm and sand the ferrule down to 12.75, and reduce the wall. I would not recommend you doing this, somebody on a lathe could.

Terrance: I would like to ask is that
drill of doom, the ****** system that you presented in the pool
clinic in Singapore? For the **** system, though I have not mastered all
the positions, but i find it an added advantage just using the first
diamond nearest to the side pocket, able to get out of tough position
using that and the cue ball going one round to get to the next ball. But i
cant seem to reach the third diamond or figure 9 inside the **** system.
Do you just punch the shot at the cue ball at the designated height?
Thanks in advance.

FL: You do have to admit this is a radical system, go any where on the table using no side or English, it is hard to believe that is possible. The key teaching here is just changing the tip slightly changes the tangent angle sometimes up to a diamond in throw and the system trains you to calculate and control that. Yes this is the same system I taught in the clinic, I just changed the name for the DVD to the drill of Doom, trying to be over dramatic I guess. You may remember I did say each position before the draws can be hit with a pure follow stroke, but I was teaching you to produce some of them using a variety of pokes and stabs to force the cue ball to slide off of it’s normal tangent line and produce a different line. You are going to have to find those on your own, keep poking and stabbing until one works, then you will know. I am coming out with the draw and then the break first; the drill of doom will be the 3rd DVD and will probably hit the market in July. Yes every DVD sold will be autographed by me on the cover to the name of the person who purchases it. I am like Houdini, I love signing my name.
Terrance: Do you just punch the shot at the cue ball at the designated height?
Thanks in advance.
FL: Go back to the instruction book I gave you, look at the exact tip position you are to hit, be sure you are on that place, being l/16th inch up or down from it will make the shot not work, then begin to stroke it, pop it, poke it, stab it until you find the stroke that produces the shot. I am constantly teaching students, stroke it don’t poke it, but I do teach pokes and stabs. There is a place for them as you have learned from this drill; they can do some really cool things with the cue ball.


Yours Sincerely,
Terence
Thank you Terence for writing, your inquisitive mind and intelligent questions helps me to teach and pass on solid knowledge to others.
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Great discussion, thanks. I've wondered about Moori's for a while. My last one de-laminated in the middle and they don't seem to hold together well when they're shaped. On top of it all they're like $35 Canadian. I'll try a Talisman pronto :) . Btw, Do you know what kind of tip Mike Massey uses?
 
FL:

<<I have been to the top 3 retina guys and I have MAD, the backs of my retinas are cooked>>

Macular Degeneration?

I know just how you feel about the corporate life, especially since IBM took over the company that I worked for. What s**t; things take 3 times as long to accomplish with IBM running things.

As to some of the flamers here, again I know where you're coming from. I'm a former chiro who has 2 almost 3 other degrees and the guff I get at a bicycle forum is astounding. Like highly educated people are intolerable. Later this year I'm going to teach high school chemistry, biology and physics somewhere in the deep south that's wanting for science teachers. At least I'll be appreciated there. And so much for $$'s afforded by I.T.. Ain't worth the hassle.
 
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Top Spin said:
Great discussion, thanks. I've wondered about Moori's for a while. My last one de-laminated in the middle and they don't seem to hold together well when they're shaped. On top of it all they're like $35 Canadian. I'll try a Talisman pronto :) . Btw, Do you know what kind of tip Mike Massey uses?


No I don't, Mike can be very secretive about these things, it is not a layered tip, probably a very hard single layered water buffalo, every time I have seen him his tip is so thin it is damn near on the ferrule, every time I try and discuss this and he changes the subject, like oh no that's not on purpose, I just play a lot of pool and it's worn out, going to change it soon, I don't buy that load of crap for one minute. We all have our little inside secrets and most of these guys will tell them to the lid of their coffins. I am the only one now singing like a canary, nobody else is telling you squat.

If this new Talisman does not out perform your old Morri then I will kiss your butt,
of your cue? You see I am trying to be politically correct, I am getting better. :D
 
Snooker

Hey larry where did all the Golf games go on the snooker tables ? I can not find but one place and it is about 8 hours from here in charlston WV . Do you know any spots ?
 
I am mad

kokopuffs said:
FL:

<<I have been to the top 3 retina guys and I have MAD, the backs of my retinas are cooked>>

Macular Degeneration?

I know just how you feel about the corporate life, especially since IBM took over the company that I worked for. What s**t; things take 3 times as long to accomplish with IBM running things.

As to some of the flamers here, again I know where you're coming from. I'm a former chiro who has 2 almost 3 other degrees and the guff I get at a bicycle forum is astounding. Like highly educated people are intolerable. Later this year I'm going to teach high school chemistry, biology and physics somewhere in the deep south that's wanting for science teachers. At least I'll be appreciated there. And so much for $$'s afforded by I.T.. Ain't worth the hassle.

FAST REPLIES, YES MAD IS Macular Degeneration? There is no cure for this. The thing that gets me with flamers, is this guy attackes you from under a rock, he is nice and safe, so he can shoot off his mouth. The guy begins to call me names, I do the same thing, call him the same names and they kick me off the board and he stays on. Been there, done that. It's like because I am some public figure I am not allowed to defend my self and when I do I am some dangerous thing to be locked up in a cage.
I have gone back to remember some of my fathers old advice, you cannot win any agrument with an ignorant man.
The other one I have learned is winning a internet argument only proves you are really stupid for getting into an internet argument in the first place.:D :p :cool: :rolleyes:
 
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