????Asking for weight????
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It's fine if you and he both know each other's game. But if he doesn't know you, he's not going to want to give you weight without playing first or at least observing your game.
-Andrew
Old Nine Baller
Banned
There's never anything wrong with asking for weight if you need it or offering it if you need to.
ONB
I am ok with it as long as you say something about weight at the same time. What drives me crazy is the guy barking to play all day long and then I say "OK Let's play." Then he says "What are you giving up?"
That's what I was thinking. It seems like gambling is so dead people are just happy to get a game. There's just no way to get yourself under the pressure of playing for money unless your playing for it.
It is a little sickening when the loudest wooftard in the building always waits till after woofing to ask for the 5 and the break.
Agreed, but I'm not barking. I'm smart enough to know that I can't bite hard enough yet...yet!
Banks
Banned
Unless there's some kind of reference point you can use.. (APA level, BCA ranking, mutual people you may have played).. it's easier just to ask to play and try to adjust afterwards. Many will be willing if they want the game. If they just want easy money or think they're giving you a lesson, they'll refuse to offer a spot(when they can spot you) and you don't want to waste your time with that anyhow. Otherwise, they're probably too much work for too little benefit.
Hard to get a game asking for weight if you are the one asking.Its an art to get a player to ask you , then to work in that you will play, but not even. (actually, its a lost art ).
Also its a fallacy that you HAVE to play better players to get better. All you learn is how to lose. Watch better players, what they do, live, on youtube, etc. If you only need a little weight, then you probablly already know what they know ( they only ecicute better ). Playing weaker players giving a spot is how you make money gamblin. You want to be the best player in the match. 'Playin better players to get better ' was started by "Better Players'...lol
Also its a fallacy that you HAVE to play better players to get better. All you learn is how to lose. Watch better players, what they do, live, on youtube, etc. If you only need a little weight, then you probablly already know what they know ( they only ecicute better ). Playing weaker players giving a spot is how you make money gamblin. You want to be the best player in the match. 'Playin better players to get better ' was started by "Better Players'...lol
It's all about how much money you're playing for! If you're looking to play 20 dollar sets, I would find a semi pro or better and say, "hey, I suck, let's play races to 5 for 20"! After a few sets, most will be willing to work with you as far getting your game to a higher level!
I did this with my friend shorty (Tom Dalfonso)! I started out as a C player and in a few months he got me to solid B player
it's the little things that make such an impact!
I did this with my friend shorty (Tom Dalfonso)! I started out as a C player and in a few months he got me to solid B player
it's the little things that make such an impact!
Banks
Banned
Too true. I learned a couple of safeties early on from better players, but that's about it. The rest I learned on my own.. like don't try to out-shoot a better player.
Although, to me, for the money, it's a toss-up between giving up weight(very slowly) or finding players with an ego and acting like they're getting bad rolls. Both ways can get you cash. If you give up weight, try to play a couple of sets before offering the next spot. Players with egos will keep firing away until they realize they're getting short, by then you've already got about as much as you can out of them.
In my opinion its ALWAYS ok to ask for weight, I mean what's the worst that can happen - they say no??? Only thing you will need to take into consideration is your reputation. Under no circumstances would you want to get the reputation of someone who only gets in action unless you have a lock.
Here's a quick funny story bout asking for weight. I was 17 and had someone that for the better part of a year we were playing each other for a few G's every week; one week we would play at my home room, the next at his home room and would rotate each week. Both rooms looked forward to us playing cause it generated a lot of side action between the rooms. Anyway one day I was headed to Atlantic City and decided to stop in his room cause it was pretty much on the way. I stopped on but he wasn't around - no biggie. Well another guy from there was there and jumped all on me trying to get me to play. He was one of the top players from that room and played REAL strong. I had no interest in playing him cause for one I was on my way to AC and two he was really too strong for me and I figured I couldn't get enough weight to male it fair but none the less I really didn't want to play. Well he woofed and woofed and woofed, so I finally just said ok, I'll play...............with the call 5 and the free 7. To my disbelief he said get up - $200 a set. I figures hell nothing wrong with a few extra bucks for the trip. Well after about a G he pulled up. Said he wanted to adjust- I said fine I'll be a nice guy and only take the free 5. Another $800 later he quit. Then he proceeded to woof at me even harder to play him some one hole ( which was his best game ). I told him again I really didn't want to play. He continued woofing hard as ever so jokingly I said ok, 15-4. He said bet!!! $200 a game!!! Well I played, finished busting him and when all was said and done I won $3600! So moral is never hurts to ask, ya never know what someone is gonna do
takeitdown
Banned
You gotta play for something worth their time. I really don't gamble for under 100 a set. Otherwise the room is the only winner.
Just try to be good action by
Not quitting winner after a set or two
Paying all time if you win
Giving back weight if you clobber him with the spot
Lose gracefully (the hardest part)
takeitdown
Banned
I have to give weight to most local players and am happy to give them their spot and then some if they bet right. Problem is so few players have cash and even less have heart.
If you play for anything decent, make them post. Sucks losing hundreds to a guy with 18 bucks in his pocket or getting air barreled.
If you play for anything decent, make them post. Sucks losing hundreds to a guy with 18 bucks in his pocket or getting air barreled.