The pivot point on a low deflection cue is much farther away from the tip than on a regular cue. For players using a short bridge: Does this make it difficult to use BHE with a low deflection cue?
Any comments.
Any comments.
Back Hand English/Pivot Point
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Is this a loaded question?
I am not sure if it is more difficult...its just different.
The way I look at it is, normal deflection shafts just seem to work better for BHE...Low deflection shafts kind of defeat the purpose of using BHE.
When I use BHE, I depend on the deflection...That means I want a shaft that has some deflection properties.
There is a whole bunch of technical mumbo jumbo behind using a shift of the bridge hand instead of a pivot, but since I don't use a Predator shaft (or other low deflection shaft) I never really paid attention to the application process.
I am sure that someone will post the more technical side of things...
All I know is that when using BHE...some deflection is a good thing
I am not sure if it is more difficult...its just different.
The way I look at it is, normal deflection shafts just seem to work better for BHE...Low deflection shafts kind of defeat the purpose of using BHE.
When I use BHE, I depend on the deflection...That means I want a shaft that has some deflection properties.
There is a whole bunch of technical mumbo jumbo behind using a shift of the bridge hand instead of a pivot, but since I don't use a Predator shaft (or other low deflection shaft) I never really paid attention to the application process.
I am sure that someone will post the more technical side of things...
All I know is that when using BHE...some deflection is a good thing
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Whenever I use a low deflection shaft I play english by feel instead of BHE. I've seen some refer to it as front hand english...but I don't think that's right since I make my adjustment as I address the cue ball. (When I use BHE with standard shafts I make my adjustment after the address.) It's possible to use BHE with low deflection shafts but IMHO it feels awkward since your pivot point is more towards the cue joint.
I think adjusting for squirt with those shafts is more similar to the way you adjust for throw...feeling the adjustment for the correct shot line.
I think adjusting for squirt with those shafts is more similar to the way you adjust for throw...feeling the adjustment for the correct shot line.
Tennesseejoe said:
It isn't making it difficult, it only makes it unnecessary. The CB only travels another path, so you will miss the pot. When you are playing with side english, the CB will deflect/squirt. If you use BHE you are compensating the deflection. The cue is not in parallel of the original line when you use BHE. So there is no use for using BHE with a low deflection cue. You can shoot with a lesser side-angle than when you apply BHE. FHE got a lesser side-angle than BHE. When you use a low deflection cue, it's better to use FHE instead of BHE. It is also possible to not using FHE when playing with a low deflection cue. Just lining the cue parallel on the center ball hit will do, and compensating for a little deflection.
Tennesseejoe said:
BHE means using your bridge as your pivot point; FHE means using your grip hand as your pivot point. It only works for BHE if your stick's actual pivot point is close to your bridge (say 8-12 inches from your tip) and it only works for FHE if your stick's actual pivot point is close to your grip hand (say 40-50 inches from your tip).
Problem is, it's not that simple to figure out where your stick's actual pivot point is. The actual pivot point changes from shot to shot as swerve counteracts squirt to different degrees. Swerve stretches the pivot length, so the actual pivot point is mostly longer than the theoretical one (never smaller). I'd estimate it's often twice as long or more.
This means that no system can automatically compensate accurately for squirt/swerve on every shot, even if you narrow your range of speed/spin (one likely way BHE/FHE players adjust).
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