Becue Leonardo Balance System

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I have a Becue Natural Born Naked playing cue and a Naked break cue, I bought the Leonardo Weight Balance System for my playing cue a long time ago, recently I started using heavier cues so I bought another one for the break cue, since I only used .50 oz for the playing cue I had extra weight for the break so I took the morning and played around with the System.

The most weight I could add was 1.9 ozs due to the size limitations of the Balance System, you remove the butt plug and the system sits about an inch in the cue, I started with 1.5 ozs at the back of the cue and .4oz at the front of the system, this made the cue butt heavy so I decided to flip the weight arrangement and put the heavier weights at the front of the system and the .4oz weight near the butt plug, the difference was amazing! While the cue weighed the same by moving the weight the cue became more forward weighted which is what I hoped would happen.

So with the Becue Leonardo Balance System not only can you change the weight of your cue but you change it's Balance point, I am working on my playing cue now, I love these cues !!!!!!
 
While I do believe that such cues and weight systems are the future of pool cues, a good cue maker can reach the desired weight and balance point by combining different woods and coring without the use of weight bolts.
This kind of a cue (without bolts) with a solid maple shaft and a good ferrule will have a sweet hit and an amazing tone to the hit.
 
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skor said:
While I do believe that such cues and weight systems are the future of pool cues, a good cue maker can reach the desired weight and balance point by combining different woods and coring without the use of weight bolts.
This kind of a cue (without bolts) with a solid maple shaft and a good ferrule will have a sweet hit and an amazing tone to the hit.
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They can, but will they. I know I have worked with a couple well known ones and when I specified a balance point of 18 3/4"- 19 1/8" that's when it all ended. Choice of woods, rings, no problem, balance point, no bono.
 
muskyed said:
They can, but will they. I know I have worked with a couple well known ones and when I specified a balance point of 18 3/4"- 19 1/8" that's when it all ended. Choice of woods, rings, no problem, balance point, no bono.
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I had a cue made for me that hit the mark
Of course no one can guarantee in advance to get it perfectly.
I had to settle on the pin and have a metal pin instead of a G10 to get the balance point.
Not a big time cue maker, but a solid one. Sadly I heard that he is very sick and at the end of his life.
 
skor said:
While I do believe that such cues and weight systems are the future of pool cues, a good cue maker can reach the desired weight and balance point by combining different woods and coring without the use of weight bolts.
This kind of a cue (without bolts) with a solid maple shaft and a good ferrule will have a sweet hit and an amazing tone to the hit.
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Becue cues are made of entirely CF, there is no wood anywhere in the cue, it will never warp or rot, everything made of wood changes over time, it's why guitars need to have the set up adjusted usually a couple of times a year, temperature and humidity affect wood but CF can suffer radical changes in both and it doesn't affect the cue, CF is great for a cue but there will always be a need for things made of wood, especially musical instruments, no 2 pieces of wood are exactly alike, that's why CF is IMHO the best for pool cues. I like the consistency of the play from shaft to shaft.
 
SSP said:
Becue cues are made of entirely CF, there is no wood anywhere in the cue, it will never warp or rot, everything made of wood changes over time, it's why guitars need to have the set up adjusted usually a couple of times a year, temperature and humidity affect wood but CF can suffer radical changes in both and it doesn't affect the cue, CF is great for a cue but there will always be a need for things made of wood, especially musical instruments, no 2 pieces of wood are exactly alike, that's why CF is IMHO the best for pool cues. I like the consistency of the play from shaft to shaft.
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I know and I agree and I use CF shafts.
But every now and then I feel like hearing that pure wooden tone.
Maybe someday they’ll be able to emulate that sound and tone with composite materials.
 
skor said:
While I do believe that such cues and weight systems are the future of pool cues, a good cue maker can reach the desired weight and balance point by combining different woods and coring without the use of weight bolts.
This kind of a cue (without bolts) with a solid maple shaft and a good ferrule will have a sweet hit and an amazing tone to the hit.
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This is exactly how Kelly / MVP Cues made my cue. Love it.
 
SSP said:
the Becue Leonardo Balance System not only can you change the weight of your cue but you change it's Balance poin
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the Leonardo Balance System allows weights to be placed in the last few inches of the butt.
McDermott's weight system in its H-Series cues allow varying the amount and location of weights along the length of the butt!



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Mcdermott does have more options for weight bolt placement, I am letting Becue owners know that you can change the balance point in their cues, the amount of change foe me was all that I needed, I have also worked on one for my playing cue that is working very well. I have used it for 3 days, want to test it for awhile to make sure it works.
 
SSP said:
Mcdermott does have more options for weight bolt placement
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I suspect McDermott's system is more for the finicky. I would like to buy a used one but few are for sale. The only thing wrong with them seem to be a need for something like Loctite to keep the weights and spacers in place. Others complained about the effort required to find out where the best place for the weights was. In any event, you just cannot beat H-Series for where to place weights in a cue butt.

J.Flowers' SMO originally had removalble weights in the shaft --- maybe Mezz has something like that, too?
 
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Mezz Avant has a system to load weights in the back and in the center of the cue
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The H-Series weights that can be placed anywhere in the butt may be over-kill. The ability to place it at bumper end and middle of the Mezz Avant butt may be enough:


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Paul_#_ said:
The H-Series weights that can be placed anywhere in the butt may be over-kill. The ability to place it at bumper end and middle of the Mezz Avant butt may be enough:


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the ability to place the bolt anywhere in the butt means that the whole butt is hollow and I don't like this idea
But I'm not sure that I like the joint in the middle of the but like in a J/B cue for a playing cue
 
skor said:
the ability to place the bolt anywhere in the butt means that the whole butt is hollow and I don't like this idea
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McDermott has the features of an old-school cue company being in Wisconsin and its history with wood cues but its actually adventurous. Forget about the exterior wood of the H-Series and concentrate on the carbon fiber rod inside that wood butt. That will make up for any problem with the hollowed-out wood butt. I wonder if their emphasis on carbon-fiber-inside-wood shafts (G-Core, i-1, i-2, i-3, i-Pro) is to get reliability and to use lower-quality wood.
 
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