Behind the rack clarification

[mullyman]

Ok, guys, if you'll recall a week or 2 ago we were in a discussion about breaks from underneath the rack. I had said that Rempe's tape explained *drawing* 3 rails from a certain position. I was going through some stuff last night and came across that tape so I tossed it in and here is the correct answer......I was mistaken.

He said that when you are on the outside of the round of the second ball you would follow with outside spin and go one rail to center table. If you're inside of the round of the second ball then you force follow with high inside and go 3 rails around to center table. He said "that holds true until you get to around the second ball on the other side." He said once you're on that side you would use draw to bounce off the stack, draw into the *bottom rail* and out. He didn't *say* draw to the bottom rail but he motioned with his hand that way. See diagram: Page 1: Follow one cushion and out. Page 2: Follow 3 rails and out. Page 3: Draw to bottom cushion and out.

Now, I may not have diagrammed it perfect but you get the main idea. That draw may not even be possible. I'm just going by the way he motioned with his hand when he said it. Don't shoot the messenger.

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So, anyway, I apologize for saying draw 3 rails out. I thought that's what he said, and I've done it before because of that, but I was incorrect........I also won't be playing it 3 rails anymore with draw. hehe!!

 

[Gerry]

yup, you got it now, it's a follow shot, and be careful not to over stroke it, or you can scratch in the side. You want to drill this ball and spin out to center table, but not too hard....

Rempes tape is super!....Sigels is my favorite by far. He goes in depth into breakers all the way around the rack.....and how to hit em'!

 

[CueAndMe]

He said once you're on that side you would use draw to bounce off the stack, draw into the *bottom rail* and out. He didn't *say* draw to the bottom rail but he motioned with his hand that way.

I remember the post. It makes better sense now. But....
I'm now not quite sure about the above shot. Are you sure he drew it with his hand like that? I just can't picture the draw shot coming off of the bottom rail. It looks like there's a slight possibility of a scratch at its lowest, but I see the shot striking the side cushion, and then maybe, if there's enough reverse spin out slightly toward the center of the table.

Here's what I picture being the lowest extreme, where the cueball strikes right between the 6 and 9, the lowest path being the red line. I'm curious now. I'll try it when I get to a table if no one has already.

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[mullyman]

Are you sure he drew it with his hand like that? I just can't picture the draw shot coming off of the bottom rail.

Yeah, that's why I put that in my message. Drawing it down to the bottom rail like that didn't seem very likely to me but that's the way he waved his hand around the table. And it was more of a general gesture type thing that actually pointing out exactly how it would go. It seemed fishy to me too.
MULLY

 

[mullyman]

yup, you got it now, it's a follow shot, and be careful not to over stroke it, or you can scratch in the side. You want to drill this ball and spin out to center table, but not too hard....

Rempes tape is super!....Sigels is my favorite by far. He goes in depth into breakers all the way around the rack.....and how to hit em'!

Thanks, Gerry, but the draw shot I'm talking about is on diagram 3 of that table. I just put the follow shot on there because we had gone over that before.
MULLY
would love to see that Sigel tape. What is the title?

 

[Dan White]

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If you remember that link I posted awhile back on unusual break shots, there's one like this:

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The 1 hits the 9 just a split second before the 6 and goes in the corner pocket. It is amazing how consistent it is. At least you get close to making the 1 most of the time. It occurs to me you might get into some trouble if the cue ball does the same thing on the draw break shot... just a thought.

 

[CueAndMe]

Thanks Dan. Yes I do remember that interesting break shot. Makes sense.

Mully, the Sigel tape is "Run Out Straight Pool" I believe, but I don't see it being sold anymore. Rempe went into the break shots in more depth in your video. Sigel says pretty much the same stuff, but more general info.

 

[Dan White]

Thanks Dan. Yes I do remember that interesting break shot. Makes sense.

Mully, the Sigel tape is "Run Out Straight Pool" I believe, but I don't see it being sold anymore. Rempe went into the break shots in more depth in your video. Sigel says pretty much the same stuff, but more general info.

I may be seeing Rempe fairly soon. If so, I'll ask him about the idea of drawing off the bottom of the pack and exactly what he meant.

 

[CueAndMe]

I may be seeing Rempe fairly soon. If so, I'll ask him about the idea of drawing off the bottom of the pack and exactly what he meant.

That's cheating.