Bergman-Lil John Match

fjk said:
So how many sets do they need to lose before it's ok for them to quit? In my book, the loser can always quit whenever then want without any criticism whatsoever. ESPECIALLY when giving a huge handicap. If someone wants to get a good game and win more, they should ask to play for more. Sets are played for a reason; they're starting and stopping points.

Again, I'm from the old school and quitting winners is poor form. I have never heard of anyone getting angry at the loser quitting. Disappointed maybe, but not angry.
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Set is a different story. I am talking by the game and you lose the first game and quit. You said he never loses more than 1 bet, so I assumed that applied in by the game scenarios too. Sure you can quit after a set. After a single game though, you’re bad action. That’s all. And as far as quitting winner, that’s not just bad action but it’s basically forbidden unless you 1. Play the person a lot and know you’ll get a shot at your money back. 2. Negotiate a stop time beforehand. 3. Up the bet and give them a chance to at least break even
 
jalapus logan said:
What if I am asked to play onepocket by the game, play for a few hours, get tired and quit up a few games? Am I a nit? Would it make a difference if no time amount and no number of games were discussed beforehand? Would it matter if I offered double or nothing for one more game? Asking for a friend 🤣
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If you negotiate a time, or offer a way for them to get even I think you’re fine
 
jalapus logan said:
What if I am asked to play one pocket by the game, play for a few hours, get tired and quit up a few games? Am I a nit? Would it make a difference if no time amount and no number of games were discussed beforehand? Would it matter if I offered double or nothing for one more game? Asking for a friend 🤣
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Personally, it wouldn't bother me. But back when I was hanging around pool halls though, proper gambling etiquette was always winner can't quit, only the loser can quit. If the winner was getting tired or had to go, they stated it in advance (an hour or two in advance) and made the offer to raise the bet so the loser had a chance of getting their money back in the time frame remaining.

Don't shoot the messenger, that's just the gambling etiquette I grew up playing in. I still go by it because it just seems right.
 
fjk said:
Personally, it wouldn't bother me. But back when I was hanging around pool halls though, proper gambling etiquette was always winner can't quit, only the loser can quit. If the winner was getting tired or had to go, they stated it in advance (an hour or two in advance) and made the offer to raise the bet so the loser had a chance of getting their money back in the time frame remaining.

Don't shoot the messenger, that's just the gambling etiquette I grew up playing in. I still go by it because it just seems right.
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Then offering up double or nothing seems good enough to me then.
 
highkarate said:
Set is a different story. I am talking by the game and you lose the first game and quit. You said he never loses more than 1 bet, so I assumed that applied in by the game scenarios too. Sure you can quit after a set. After a single game though, you’re bad action. That’s all. And as far as quitting winner, that’s not just bad action but it’s basically forbidden unless you 1. Play the person a lot and know you’ll get a shot at your money back. 2. Negotiate a stop time beforehand. 3. Up the bet and give them a chance to at least break even
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I can distinctly recall negotiating a spot in one pocket (10-7 for $50 a game I believe). I felt it was a fair spot and I wasn't trying to hustle or even get the advantage. Just so happens I played better than normal and won the first rack fairly easily. The guy spotting me thought I played better than I actually did and quit after that first rack. It didn't bother me in the least. If he did negotiate a bad spot, and realized it, I wouldn't expect him to stick around just so I could win more.

If someone expects at least three racks worth of action, they should play 3 ahead. If playing by the rack, each rack represents a potential stopping point for the loser...just like a set.
 
fjk said:
Personally, it wouldn't bother me. But back when I was hanging around pool halls though, proper gambling etiquette was always winner can't quit, only the loser can quit. If the winner was getting tired or had to go, they stated it in advance (an hour or two in advance) and made the offer to raise the bet so the loser had a chance of getting their money back in the time frame remaining.

Don't shoot the messenger, that's just the gambling etiquette I grew up playing in. I still go by it because it just seems right.
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The only real gambling etiquette is did the agreed upon money change hands, or didn't it. That is all that ever matter to me. I never did care who quit or when. That's just me though.
 
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fjk said:
If someone expects at least three racks worth of action, they should play 3 ahead. If playing by the rack, each rack represents a potential stopping point for the loser...just like a set.
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This is how I feel about it as well. Playing by the game is just that. If you want something else, then say that. I also feel that since I was asked to play, if he wanted additional terms and conditions, then speak up. To be honest, the reason I prefer to play by the game is because there is no way I'm staying up well into the morning playing pool. I did that a month or so ago on a Friday and I was worthless the rest of the weekend. I wish this weren't the case, but I'm closer to 50 than 40. Sux

I grew up at the racetrack. Nobody ever asks to rerun a damn race.

Of course, I'm older now and barely give a shit, so there's that.
 
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highkarate said:
Same shit really. If somebody is only ever willing to lose a single game, that’s bad action. Pool has swings, even in a good game. If you can’t handle a 1 game swing, bad action.
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Yeah, those of us who knew him knew you couldn't win anything from him. Regardless, the allure of huge spots often suckered us in to playing. A few guys made it a point to only go off for a bet or two if they were losing, just like he did.
 
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