quote=williamd;1702001]dartman
that tour edition 30-30 just seems to have a such a beautiful quality to the surface finish on the top side that i personally just can't imagine not putting that side up. I really love the play and speed of that cloth! Not having installed any upper end cloth before i didn't feel i was ready for a simonis 860 or gorina basalt "install experience". The cloth was great to work with and a couple of minor points during the install were forgiven by the cloths great stretchability,especially on the rail work! There were top stickers on all cloth pieces supplied.
The old cushions were really tough to get off . There really were not many useful measuring points left on the back side. It was though evident,that congruity did not exsist between the old and the new cushions. I was assured this was not a problem as i mentioned before.
The subrail bevel had more room available than the cushion required and moving it down by a generous 1/16" did bring it to an acceptable point at the bottom of the subrail bevel. The old cushions seemed to ever so slightly overhang or "bulge over" both top and bottom edges of the subrail bevel but i guess i wrote that off due to their age.
I also am guilty of not measuring the subrail angle or face width.
i strongly suggest any owner trying to perform this operation without experienced supervision pay close attention to those factors as it seems they are the very HEART and SOUL of rail performance.
Although i feel that the "Artemis" cushions are a worthwhile investment in a table rebuild project,
I dont believe that their are any inherent issues or problems with the Tour Edition cushion design. It is my belief that when used in the correct application and conforming to all install requirements they would fit the needs of many table owners seeking good performance.
sincerly williamd[/quote]
DC
Please don't judge the Championship product line as inferior due to any of my previous posts in "cushion reponse problem" topic. I feel that the results I obtained and my disappointment in the overall outcome were directly attributed to my inexperience in the field. As careful as I was (and believe me I was very meticulus in the install process) I feel I failed to insure the subrail angle was correct and that this is the main factor in the underperforming result that I obtained. I believe the Championship product line has solid research and testing behind all that they offer!
I don't feel you would be at all disappointed in the performance of the Tour Edition cushions if properly installed!
Sincerly
WilliamD