Best way to clean the slate?
- Thread starter Dropabomb
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Scraper...in the hand of the recoverer.
If they have to take the time to do it, expect to be charged for it.
shouldnt the mechanic expect to have to clean the slate or whatever else necessary before he puts new cloth on it?
For the OP, Penguin Rails recommends Toluene to remove glue from the rails. Will do as well on slate.
Acetone is for the BLUE WAX and wax of any sort should never be used on a Diamond 3 piece slate. The wax was all over the top and inside the seam. BONDO is the factory method. The glue on top of the slate is another issue that I did not get a chance mention to him. Scraping it is terrible work and it SUCKS. It should have never been there to begin with, adhesive remover does not have methylene chloride in it anymore and does not work at all. Worsted cloth is supposed to be an EDGE BOND only. There should never be spray glue or any glue on top of the slate. The last guy used spray glue to install the cloth, which then mixes with the blue glue that was there originally and that makes ALL of it bad: it has to come off the sides & edges & bottoms of the slate. Not spending my time doing that.
I dont mind saying this: I am the guy he is speaking of. The table was purchased from someone who has no idea how to set up a Diamond. I made a good decision for me and was not cleaning up all that guys mess. I lost time and money on the job. Even paying him his money back for the cloth. The slate was going to be a nightmare. When I see half the levelers randomly extended all the way out around the perimeter and the middle levelers= I know the slate is gonna be all over the place. Seaming that up is bull$shit work. I deal with FLAT SLATE. Not this garbage cupped, crowned and one edge flared up slate...
No. I should not expect the table was set up by a "hack" and I reserve the right to walk away from service work that falls into this category. I told the customer to call the "mechanic" he bought the table from and have him install it. He claims to be "Diamond Trained" and I know that is not true. While on this topic: I have spoken to people who have had him set up their tables and had the customer told me this: I would have surely not wasted EITHER of our time. This is the first time I have walked away from a nightmare job, it ain't worth all the hassle and trying to renegotiate $$ doing something I absolutely do not want to do. I was nice about it and stand 100% behind my decision. I learned a lesson and it is this: I HAVE LEARNED A LOT OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS!!!
TFT
P.s. There is no way to know all of this stuff until you get onsite. Like I said above: I learned my lesson.
Wow, just wow! So much bs, in so many ways.
Have proof? Or did that come out of your mouth along with the spittle dripping down your chin?
This should be stated/covered up-front before any work begins. Sounds like major communication breakdown to me. On both sides. Owner could have easily sent clear pics of the table allowing mechanic to give an accurate estimate. Just my $.02 here, nothing more.
Proof of what, or are you just a dipshit? It’s obvious, what I was referring to. Complete bs that the previous guy did such a bad job. Complete bs that current guy doesn’t explain what’s up, and correct it. I’ve been a contractor, and I’ve hired contractors. These situations come up often. There are much better ways to handle them.
my post above was assuming a "normal" replace the cloth and whatever is normal to prepare the slate for it.
in this case it seems things were "out of the range of normal" and you decided to pass on the job.
no harm no foul
jmho
This is all in your opinion. It is a FACT that I have the right to walk away. You can choose what is good for what you do and so can I. You are not involved and have a right to your opinion, but that does not mean it is "right", it simply is yours. It is a FACT that I did not want to do all of the "extra" work. Did I make a few assumptions, yup. Am I allowed to be wrong sometimes, yup.
TFT
I wouldn’t dispute anything you’ve posted above. That doesn’t mean the situation wasn’t handled poorly. Where does the client go from here? Apparently, the table is at least partially disassembled, the cloth removed. You are out your time and expenses. Not good for anyone.
I’m not attacking anyone, just making a general observation. It’s an unfortunate situation. I won’t post again. Hope the OP gets it handled
To be clear: THIS WAS A TABLE SET UP and not a recover. I would not ever take the table apart and THEN decide it was too much. Happy I cleared that part up.
It is. He should call the guy he bought the table from. Make him clean up his own mess.
TFT
Hi guys. Im probably similar to a lot of you guys on here. Im a regular 47 your old dude with a family and a blue collar worker. Although I like to shoot some sticks I really just bought this table to enjoy with my now teenage kids and upcoming teenage kids. I really was trying to land a Gold Crown Iv but never seemed to have any luck finding one local enough to pickup. In my journey of searching I came across a tech who mentioned he just took apart a 9’ blue diamond for someone opening a hall who has one to many tables So I ended up picking up this table. Probably paid to much but it was nice, convenient and a ‘tech had already taken it apart. I ended up meeting the older gentleman who owned the table as well as a building he was renovating into a pool hall. He had several new Diamonds arriving sold sold the one I bought. He was a great guy and has helped my family indirectly through his work and was really a nice pleasure to meet. Anyway. That’s the short of it. Was hoping to get it setup today but seems no. Not really trying to bash as Trent did offer to buy back the felt I was planning on using with him so I would be happy to take him up on that thanks. So really no harm no foul again I just didn’t know what to expect and don’t want to bash anyone. I’m sure as the customer there is more I should have asked or known but truthfully I’m just a regular joe looking to get a pool table setup in my basement. I did contact the ‘tech’ who took it apart and he mentioned it was originally setup by a diamond tech and not him, he removed it from the another pool hall and moved it to the older gentleman I bought it from. I can’t speak to his work other then all the parts appear to be there. All I can say is hopefully moving forward I can get this setup and be done with it. Truthfully it’s turned out to be way more effort and cash then I ever planned and I’m really just disappointed and sorta regret my whole effort to get a new table at this point. Thanks for the warm wishes and everyone just keep doing their best