Best Way To Play This Shot

[DrCue'sProtege]

ok, once again, insulters and those not dedicated to helping someone improve their game, just dont post, ok? please. thank you.

so, how would you posters play this shot? i ran across this shot tonight, pocketed the '8' into the corner, but scratched in the other corner trying to come around two rails.

now, dont say natural angle would get you shape on the '9' Ball, because even though it may not be obvious on the diagram, the natural angle would have brought me up to the short side of the '9' Ball, or even possibly scratched into the side pocket.

i elected to hit this with just a hair below center, trying to draw it around two rails. guess i stunned it a hair too much, and scratched. i thought about a half tip of left english, but that would have made for a pretty tough shot.

thoughts gentlemen?
DCP

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[td873]

thoughts gentlemen?

This one is hard to mess up - except by hitting too soft or trying to something unnatural. Use only top at a firm stroke, and you'll go 4 rails to end up in good shape for the nine. After you strike after the 3rd rail you're golden, i.e., entering the correct angle for the 9. The fourth rail is just to control whitey for the correct next angle (here doesn't apply since the 9 is the money ball). If you are playing any draw, you are forcing the cue too deep into the corner for no reason. The 9 is an easy shot from virtually anywhere on the bottom half of the table - there is no need to give yourself an opportunity to mess up (by putting draw on the shot).

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If you "need" to play 2 rails you should use a half tip of left only and hit it softly so that you end up on the mid-table line. The nine is pretty much a duck from anywhere near the middle of the table.

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-td -> BCA recognized instructor | +2 / A player

 

[Harvywallbanger]

What caliber of player are you and what are you capable of and comfortable with? Before you take advise from everyone you might want to start asking the same from them. You get alot of replies on these things and alot of DIFFERENT replies. So if you want to make the most out of these sketches of yours maybe we should start a trend of stating your speed along with your post. I will get the ball rolling for you.

Harvywallbanger - B player.

I would hit it with a little high left (more left than high)and come around 2 rails making sure to hit it gently but not to gently. My regular speed stroke that I use to make spot shots would be perfect here I think.

 

[PoolSharkAllen]

Before you take advise from everyone you might want to start asking the same from them. You get alot of replies on these things and alot of DIFFERENT replies. So if you want to make the most out of these sketches of yours maybe we should start a trend of stating your speed along with your post. I will get the ball rolling for you.

As part of the learning process, I'd also like to suggest that DCP make an effort to try to find the solution to the problem himself (especially since I recollect him posting elsewhere that he has a table at home to practice upon).

In addition, when posters post their advice on how to play certain shots, it would be helpful to everyone for DCP (or anyone else) if they would report back on which solution actually worked for them.

Regarding DCP's question, it's important to notice the 90-degree tangent line from the 8-ball is likely to lead to a scratch if the cue ball is played with a centerball hit. So a follow shot or a draw shot on the cue ball would be the easiest ways of moving the cue ball off the tangent line. My preference would be to use high left to move whitey around the table for the 9.

 

[Rod]

As part of the learning process, I'd also like to suggest that DCP make an effort to try to find the solution to the problem himself (especially since I recollect him posting elsewhere that he has a table at home to practice upon).

In addition, when posters post their advice on how to play certain shots, it would be helpful to everyone for DCP (or anyone else) if they would report back on which solution actually worked for them.

He's not going to reply, never does, it's a waste of time, mine anyways. Funny, I have never been able to communicate with someone who doesn't talk. I think any pool player with a table at home (with a mind for pool) could find the answer to most of these questions with a little practice. If low doesn't work, why not? If center left works, why? If top left works, why? etc.

Rod

 

[Cuebacca]

this is a bad decision obviously, but much more fun...

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[Cross]

with those positions I would opt for low left english. If the hit is thick enough to scratch then it should also be enough for low left draw to the side cushion then back somewhere above center table. If it is too thin to draw then there should be no problem about scratching in the corner ( when using follow). Of course this theory is relative to the above CB and OB positions

 

[Kev]

One tip of follow, medium stroke. This will automaticly give you position on the 9.

 

[Jude Rosenstock]

This one is hard to mess up - except by hitting too soft or trying to something unnatural. Use only top at a firm stroke, and you'll go 4 rails to end up in good shape for the nine. After you strike after the 3rd rail you're golden, i.e., entering the correct angle for the 9. The fourth rail is just to control whitey for the correct next angle (here doesn't apply since the 9 is the money ball). If you are playing any draw, you are forcing the cue too deep into the corner for no reason. The 9 is an easy shot from virtually anywhere on the bottom half of the table - there is no need to give yourself an opportunity to mess up (by putting draw on the shot).

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If you "need" to play 2 rails you should use a half tip of left only and hit it softly so that you end up on the mid-table line. The nine is pretty much a duck from anywhere near the middle of the table.

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-td -> BCA recognized instructor | +2 / A player

This reply is right on the money. Personally, I think I would play it the way it's illustrated in the second diagram simply because I KNOW I can cut that ball in so long as I get the cue-ball to center-table.