Bluds playing cue

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qguy

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Blud,

if you were to purchase a custom cue for yourself, nothing fancy, something that you would be playing with and not for investment or collection, From which custom cue maker would you choose and why ? basically which among the field of custom cue makers do you think has the best cue in terms of playability ?

Blud... your not allowed to choose yourself :D
 
actually as I was typing the question ... I felt the same way...but what the heck....
 
blud's cue

It sounds like just another way of asking who make's the best cue besides you. LOL. You know he doesn't like that question don't you? Sorry Blud , couldn't resist. Ben
 
I don't think that there will ever be an answer to that, because the feel of a cue hit will differ from one person to the next. Player prefferences are all different. Wood to wood joints versus stainless steel joints, pin sizes and material, brass vs. steel. What wood to construct the cue out of will affect the hit also, I am sure even the tip material will affect the feel of the cue. Even if we give 50 cue makers the same materials and the same design to reproduce t same cue, only a handfull of people would like it because not everyone likes playing with the same type cue configuration.
 
well if i may say so......from personal knowledge i dont think it would matter which maker he gets a cue from he is a helluva player.....i know cause i have played many games on one hole with him and he is no slouch.....im no champ but i aint a newbie.....so i think it doesnt matter and is not of any relevance....but why would he want to buy something from someone else when he could build anything under the sun for himself.....kind of a crazy question dont you think leonard.......looking forward to getting a cue from blud myself soon.......take care and have fun.....hope all is well with everyone........rack'em tight,hit'em hard.........juston coleman
 
well If I were in Bluds shoes, I would respond with the 15 USD K Mart cue :-)

Actually I was really curious what cue would Blud play with ?

We are all curious of what the pro play with right ??

Why not ask a cuemaker ? what cue he would recommend, knowing how the others makes their cues, a cuemakers recommendation or preference would be a very valuable information

my apologies, I know I placed you on the "spot"



maybe you could just pm me your recommendation

just kidding......
 
qguy said:
Blud,

if you were to purchase a custom cue for yourself, nothing fancy, something that you would be playing with and not for investment or collection, From which custom cue maker would you choose and why ? basically which among the field of custom cue makers do you think has the best cue in terms of playability ?

Since Blud nor any other custom cue maker is going to respond with a name, maybe you should change the request to a pro player for playability. With Johnny Archer having a year of all years pounding great players into the ground, maybe you might want to look into a Scorpion. (This should be fun)

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drivermaker said:


Since Blud nor any other custom cue maker is going to respond with a name, maybe you should change the request to a pro player for playability. With Johnny Archer having a year of all years pounding great players into the ground, maybe you might want to look into a Scorpion. (This should be fun)

................drivermaker
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Why would you think that no cuemaker would resond? I may have a different mindset, but I have never had a problem saying who I think makes nice cues. Doing cue repair has put me in a position to see almost every cue inside and out, and there are some other makers cues that I would definitely purchase, for playing with, and others for art, and some for both. I am not one of those cuemakers that lives in a bubble, and thinks that other cues aren't good. Frankly, I cannot believe that other cuemakers would not reply to this thread in a positive fashion! I feel that my experience with cues gives me an advantage over average Joe cue buyer, and that by trying to educate him as to what makes a good cue will actually HELP him in his endeavors. I used the same philosophy in my travels doing cue repair on the road, and feel that he level of cue repair available has been elevated because of it. An educated consumer is our best customer! However, all a guy can do is lead a horse to water! He cannot make the horse drink!
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Ted Harris said:
I feel that my experience with cues gives me an advantage over average Joe cue buyer, and that by trying to educate him as to what makes a good cue

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My point exactly......

but since Blud has this new cue makers organization its like asking yourself to choose which among your 5 daughters is the prettiest.. hehehe

again my apologies to Blud.....
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Ted Harris said:
Why would you think that no cuemaker would resond? I may have a different mindset, but I have never had a problem saying who I think makes nice cues. Doing cue repair has put me in a position to see almost every cue inside and out, and there are some other makers cues that I would definitely purchase, for playing with, and others for art, and some for both. I am not one of those cuemakers that lives in a bubble, and thinks that other cues aren't good. Frankly, I cannot believe that other cuemakers would not reply to this thread in a positive fashion! I feel that my experience with cues gives me an advantage over average Joe cue buyer, and that by trying to educate him as to what makes a good cue will actually HELP him in his endeavors. I used the same philosophy in my travels doing cue repair on the road, and feel that he level of cue repair available has been elevated because of it. An educated consumer is our best customer! However, all a guy can do is lead a horse to water! He cannot make the horse drink!
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Well...back up what you're saying and name some names. You can include yourself also. How about your top 5?

.......................drivermaker
 
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Well...back up what you're saying and name some names. You can include yourself also. How about your top 5?

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Well, since this thread was not addressed to me, I did not answer. But now being asked, I will answer.
Certainly, my cues have many of the properties that I would look for in a cue. Each cuemaker has things he does that are better than others, and also has things he does equally as well as others. As far as my cues are concerned, I feel that many of the construction processes I use are on the cutting edge (as cuemaking goes), and certainly require more work than most cues of equal aesthetic value. There are many avenues that I have yet to explore. I have just done my first three inlayed cues, as the focus has been on the cue being built from the inside out. I would like to eventually have a CNC inlay machine, as it opens up a whole new world of artistic design in the right hands.
There are a handful of cuemakers that have taken the CNC to the umpteenth degree in cuemaking and are continuosly pushing the artistic design envelope. Three that come to mind are Jerry McWorter, Tony Scianella of Black Boar, and Thomas Wayne. I would love to have cues by each of them in my collection. There are other cuemakers that have influenced my design and construction processes besides the three listed above, all at different stages of my learning process; Southwest, Josswest, Cognoscenti, and Mike Capone. I would like to think that my cues are a combination of the best of all of these cues, based on the level I have reached.
There are many cuemakers whose contributions have in some form or another influenced my cuemaking, and I would like to thank them all, and many others that are not mentioned here as well. To me, the ones mentioned above simply stand out for their level of excellence, IMHO. I really don't see what the big deal is in admitting that others make GREAT cues too.
 
Naming cuemakers, is a personal thing.
We [and i speak for several cuemakers] have our own opinions about who is who. All of us have our personal opinions on who is who.......

It's just that, very "PERSONAL".

Names have been named by several over the years. Some names come up and some claim that these guys are great cuemakers. I totally disagree. Just because a guy claims to be a cuemaker, and does clean work and has nice designs, this in no way makers him a cuemaker.


CUEMAKERS, In my opinion, He needs to know how to play, and understand what the ball needs to do, and understand how to make a cue play well. How can a guy who can't play, build a great cue??? Impossible. It may look nice, but how does it play. He might just might stumble on a cue hitting good.

Anyone out there can build a nice looking cue. Anyone. But not all have the know how to build great hitting cues.

There is a "HUGE" differance, between a good looking cue and a great hitting cue.

I personall have knowlege of about 6 or 8 cuemakers [so called] that can not make a bridge or make two balls in a row with ball in hand. Would you buy a cue from a non player??????{Please understand, i also know of great players that build cues and they don't build great cues, either}.

I, like Ted Harris, have seen all kinds of work in cues. Some good some not so good. After 32 years of it, I have seen it all.[ A hell of a lot more than any repair guy].....Not putting anyone down, just stating a fact....

Yes, I have seen some very pretty cues, in my time. Pretty is not always best. It's got to have "heart" before the design and paint goes on.

One who can't play, and or one who copies another guys work, [ meaning building a cue just like a good cuemakers cues], [copy cat cuemakers] will never get my vote or my money.

I am, self taught, did it my way, and it's worked for me and a long list of pro, players for years and years.

I build nice looking cues, real nice looking. I have seen prettier cues by other cuemakers, in there designs, than mine.,

My record speaks for it's self. From , Buddy, to CJ, Grady, Danny, Mary, belinda, Wade, and about 17 others playing with my cues for almost 8 years, by these champions.
No other cuemaker has this record. None. Never paid anyone to play with my cues. never.

Hell, we could pay anyone to talk good of a product, with the cash. Never did that, and never will. My product sells it's self.

We should not be forced into naming names. Why take the chance of embarassing someone, just because someone wants to know what I think.

No sir, I have more respect for "all" cuemakers, than that.
blud
 
I, like Ted Harris, have seen all kinds of work in cues. Some good some not so good. After 32 years of it, I have seen it all.[ A hell of a lot more than any repair guy].....Not putting anyone down, just stating a fact....

Yes, I have seen some very pretty cues, in my time. Pretty is not always best. It's got to have "heart" before the design and paint goes on.

One who can't play, and or one who copies another guys work, [ meaning building a cue just like a good cuemakers cues], [copy cat cuemakers] will never get my vote or my money.

I am, self taught, did it my way, and it's worked for me and a long list of pro, players for years and years.

I build nice looking cues, real nice looking. I have seen prettier cues by other cuemakers, in there designs, than mine.,

My record speaks for it's self. From , Buddy, to CJ, Grady, Danny, Mary, belinda, Wade, and about 17 others playing with my cues for almost 8 years, by these champions.
No other cuemaker has this record. None. Never paid anyone to play with my cues. never.

Hell, we could pay anyone to talk good of a product, with the cash. Never did that, and never will. My product sells it's self.

We should not be forced into naming names. Why take the chance of embarassing someone, just because someone wants to know what I think.

No sir, I have more respect for "all" cuemakers, than that.
blud


Blud this is my first reply in this forum, so I hope not to offend anyone.
I myself albeit in a different trade am a repairman, Maintenance to be exact. I guess I'm having trouble understanding your reasoning.

I in my trade have worked with alot of quality mechanics. some probably even had 30 plus years of experiance. But this I will gurantee you did not always translate in a top notch mechanic, sometimes it bread complacency, and a failure to learn and grow. In my opinion if you have seen it all where do you go from here. are You the only one pushing the envelope of cue development in the industry ?
In my trade I too have seen alot of different manufactures products. I have also had to repair these products after they fail. This has allowed me to make judgements as to Who makes a quality product what works with one or the other and also at times to make improvements to there product. By your reasoning does that make "me" a copycat. I dont believe you invented the pool cue or were the first to use veneers does that make you a copycat. I guess what I am saying is, In my opinion Someone who has repaired all types of " anything" It don't matter what. Would, Could, and Should, given or working for the the opportunity make a quality product based on there knowledge of what works and what works better

Rich
 
Hi Rich,

My reasoning is simple. There are some who build cues by, copying other cuemakers, and claim to be top knotch, at there trade. They, know nothing about cues or the game, and what it takes to build quality cues that play well. They just try to copy and claim to be the best.

Just like in your trade, you have shade tree mechanices.
No offence taken, kind sir.
blud

PS, consider this happening,
A guy buys a cue from a so calledtop cuemaker, and he pays big bucks for it. Iplays like crap. The guy is not pleased with the cues performance and quites playing. He has now been turned off from our sport. The so called cuemaker, has got his cash, and could care less, and has now driven a cue buyer out of our loop, and off the planet.[ true story] Told to me by a very nice person.
 
Has anyone here met a cuemaker who claims he's a top notch cuemaker?
I haven't.
I just like to know if this arrogance is common in the cue selling world.
I hope I don't offend anyone.
I hope Ted Harris' attitude prevails in the cuemaking world.
 
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