Bob Frey Custom
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Wow, That's a nice gift! Congrats! In my opinion it's worth a lot more than you will get if you try to sell it. My guess is you could sell the cue for $650 - $750 and if you could get him to make you a new one it would cost maybe $1,200 with a couple of shafts. Regardless you have a wonderful cue from a significant builder to play pool with. Enjoy your cue sir.
New from Bob
Over $1600 with one shaft and a leather wrap. Probably a year wait.
Nick
Over $1600 with one shaft and a leather wrap. Probably a year wait.
Nick
This is a much better estimate as Nick is the resident Fry, Scruggs expert here on the forum. Sorry for the bad guess. Thanks Nick for the correction.Over $1600 with one shaft and a leather wrap. Probably a year wait.
Nick
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Thanks for the info. I'm definitely keeping the cue. At this point, I'm going to get in touch with Bob F. and see if he can make me the extra shaft, along with custom joint protectors. I'm also looking at getting a custom J. Flowers case for this, which I will try to tool the leather myself.
Thank you everyone!
D.
Thanks for the info. I'm definitely keeping the cue. At this point, I'm going to get in touch with Bob F. and see if he can make me the extra shaft, along with custom joint protectors. I'm also looking at getting a custom J. Flowers case for this, which I will try to tool the leather myself.
Thank you everyone!
D.
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That's good to hear you are keeping it because it really is a wonderful cue and will last a lifetime.
Bob Frey Custom Cues
Phone- 410-747-7392
Nick
Phone- 410-747-7392
Nick
Tough to say.
Bob will only take so many orders. He is always behind and always in demand. Behind means a longer wait. He'll only go so far out. The AZer selling new Bob Frey Sneakies for Bob would be a good try also. The price will be the same from either. I think he bought everything Bob had in the shop. So that leaves Bob behind on custom work and repairs at the moment.
Good luck,
Nick
Bob will only take so many orders. He is always behind and always in demand. Behind means a longer wait. He'll only go so far out. The AZer selling new Bob Frey Sneakies for Bob would be a good try also. The price will be the same from either. I think he bought everything Bob had in the shop. So that leaves Bob behind on custom work and repairs at the moment.
Good luck,
Nick
Bob Frey
I guess it's imprtant to draw a distinction, and it'a a very real one as well, between cue valuess and selling prices. Cues haven't been, and aren't currently, commanding a selling price that coincides with the estimated value. It's just be a horrible secondary reslae market for cues the past couple of years and right now it's about the worst I've seen.
The Frey cue in question is indeed a beauty and the purchaser was trying to establish its value and not a selling price. Forum readers ahve suggetsed the range is $600 - $1300 and there's a big wait on cues from Frey which doesn't add to the value of the cue. Lots of cuemakers have enormous lead times right now and some have stopped actually making cues but their cues aren't increasing in value in this market.
I think this cue owner should be delighted he got a greta looking cue and if he's with the price paid, great...if it was a terrific deal...even better...but establioshing a value is so subjective. For example, fans of Schon cues will bump up thecue for sdale all the time, same goes for Joss West, capone, carmelli, etc. Anyone that owns the same brand cue wants to believe the cue in question has a high value so they in turn think their cues are worth even more than they may actually be. It kinda makes them feel better about what they own.
Since sellers can't be relied upon to establish an accurate, relaible value of their cue for sale for obvious reasons, and the same applies to prospective buyers of the cue as well, it seems like the 3rd Edition Blue Book of Cues is the best source to use for at least bench mark value establishment....I know lots of collectors and sellers criticize the book but until something better comes along, it's all there is. You can't go by the most recent sale of a cue becuase there's too many variables tghat entere into that sale so the blue Book is the most recognized publication to use for establishing cue values....at least as far as I know.
I know Bob Frey's name, but he's not listed in the 3rd Edition Blue Book as a cuemaker and his cues aren't listed either. His name isn't in the index anywhere so my question is how can anyone say with certainty how much his cues might be worth? I know for a fact when I was discussing a different cue with another seller, I did the calculation on a Joss West level 5 cue (sideways W) and mentioend that thensller was looking for almost $800 than the cue's value and what was his underlying logic. I wasn't trying to be a smart ass but facts are facts and we all know that Joss West cues, and every other brand cue as well, on "average" aren't bringing full price and are hanging around longer than the seller expected.
You would have thought I was calling the seller a crook the way he reacted. Everyone knows that the final price is determined entirely by "supply & demand" and a buyer isn't complelled to to make an offer higher than what they think the cue is worth to them. And the seller isn't obligated to accept any priuce he thinks is too low. But some folks seem to be a wee bit sensitive about quoting the Blue Book for determining a cue's value but that's only when theBlue Book says the value is less than what they want to sell the cue for. Otherwise, that seller is the first one to quote the Blue Book to support their askling price.
So with the cue in question, and I think this presents a great example to discuss since the seller asked how much is it worth, not how much can I get if I sold it which would be a understandably less than its value in this cue market. How do you establish the cue's worth.....especially since the Blue Book doesn't have any coverage of Frey or his cues, at least not unde his name.....Thanks everyone for answering because I rely upon the Blue Book for confirming a cue's likely potential value and I know everyone has their own opinion of the Blue Book.....if Frey's not even listed, what source do you the use?
Bavafongoul (aka Matt)
I guess it's imprtant to draw a distinction, and it'a a very real one as well, between cue valuess and selling prices. Cues haven't been, and aren't currently, commanding a selling price that coincides with the estimated value. It's just be a horrible secondary reslae market for cues the past couple of years and right now it's about the worst I've seen.
The Frey cue in question is indeed a beauty and the purchaser was trying to establish its value and not a selling price. Forum readers ahve suggetsed the range is $600 - $1300 and there's a big wait on cues from Frey which doesn't add to the value of the cue. Lots of cuemakers have enormous lead times right now and some have stopped actually making cues but their cues aren't increasing in value in this market.
I think this cue owner should be delighted he got a greta looking cue and if he's with the price paid, great...if it was a terrific deal...even better...but establioshing a value is so subjective. For example, fans of Schon cues will bump up thecue for sdale all the time, same goes for Joss West, capone, carmelli, etc. Anyone that owns the same brand cue wants to believe the cue in question has a high value so they in turn think their cues are worth even more than they may actually be. It kinda makes them feel better about what they own.
Since sellers can't be relied upon to establish an accurate, relaible value of their cue for sale for obvious reasons, and the same applies to prospective buyers of the cue as well, it seems like the 3rd Edition Blue Book of Cues is the best source to use for at least bench mark value establishment....I know lots of collectors and sellers criticize the book but until something better comes along, it's all there is. You can't go by the most recent sale of a cue becuase there's too many variables tghat entere into that sale so the blue Book is the most recognized publication to use for establishing cue values....at least as far as I know.
I know Bob Frey's name, but he's not listed in the 3rd Edition Blue Book as a cuemaker and his cues aren't listed either. His name isn't in the index anywhere so my question is how can anyone say with certainty how much his cues might be worth? I know for a fact when I was discussing a different cue with another seller, I did the calculation on a Joss West level 5 cue (sideways W) and mentioend that thensller was looking for almost $800 than the cue's value and what was his underlying logic. I wasn't trying to be a smart ass but facts are facts and we all know that Joss West cues, and every other brand cue as well, on "average" aren't bringing full price and are hanging around longer than the seller expected.
You would have thought I was calling the seller a crook the way he reacted. Everyone knows that the final price is determined entirely by "supply & demand" and a buyer isn't complelled to to make an offer higher than what they think the cue is worth to them. And the seller isn't obligated to accept any priuce he thinks is too low. But some folks seem to be a wee bit sensitive about quoting the Blue Book for determining a cue's value but that's only when theBlue Book says the value is less than what they want to sell the cue for. Otherwise, that seller is the first one to quote the Blue Book to support their askling price.
So with the cue in question, and I think this presents a great example to discuss since the seller asked how much is it worth, not how much can I get if I sold it which would be a understandably less than its value in this cue market. How do you establish the cue's worth.....especially since the Blue Book doesn't have any coverage of Frey or his cues, at least not unde his name.....Thanks everyone for answering because I rely upon the Blue Book for confirming a cue's likely potential value and I know everyone has their own opinion of the Blue Book.....if Frey's not even listed, what source do you the use?
Bavafongoul (aka Matt)
Bob Frey
I guess it's imprtant to draw a distinction, and it'a a very real one as well, between cue valuess and selling prices. Cues haven't been, and aren't currently, commanding a selling price that coincides with the estimated value. It's just be a horrible secondary reslae market for cues the past couple of years and right now it's about the worst I've seen.
The Frey cue in question is indeed a beauty and the purchaser was trying to establish its value and not a selling price. Forum readers ahve suggetsed the range is $600 - $1300 and there's a big wait on cues from Frey which doesn't add to the value of the cue. Lots of cuemakers have enormous lead times right now and some have stopped actually making cues but their cues aren't increasing in value in this market.
I think this cue owner should be delighted he got a greta looking cue and if he's with the price paid, great...if it was a terrific deal...even better...but establioshing a value is so subjective. For example, fans of Schon cues will bump up thecue for sdale all the time, same goes for Joss West, capone, carmelli, etc. Anyone that owns the same brand cue wants to believe the cue in question has a high value so they in turn think their cues are worth even more than they may actually be. It kinda makes them feel better about what they own.
Since sellers can't be relied upon to establish an accurate, relaible value of their cue for sale for obvious reasons, and the same applies to prospective buyers of the cue as well, it seems like the 3rd Edition Blue Book of Cues is the best source to use for at least bench mark value establishment....I know lots of collectors and sellers criticize the book but until something better comes along, it's all there is. You can't go by the most recent sale of a cue becuase there's too many variables tghat entere into that sale so the blue Book is the most recognized publication to use for establishing cue values....at least as far as I know.
I know Bob Frey's name, but he's not listed in the 3rd Edition Blue Book as a cuemaker and his cues aren't listed either. His name isn't in the index anywhere so my question is how can anyone say with certainty how much his cues might be worth? I know for a fact when I was discussing a different cue with another seller, I did the calculation on a Joss West level 5 cue (sideways W) and mentioend that thensller was looking for almost $800 than the cue's value and what was his underlying logic. I wasn't trying to be a smart ass but facts are facts and we all know that Joss West cues, and every other brand cue as well, on "average" aren't bringing full price and are hanging around longer than the seller expected.
You would have thought I was calling the seller a crook the way he reacted. Everyone knows that the final price is determined entirely by "supply & demand" and a buyer isn't complelled to to make an offer higher than what they think the cue is worth to them. And the seller isn't obligated to accept any priuce he thinks is too low. But some folks seem to be a wee bit sensitive about quoting the Blue Book for determining a cue's value but that's only when theBlue Book says the value is less than what they want to sell the cue for. Otherwise, that seller is the first one to quote the Blue Book to support their askling price.
So with the cue in question, and I think this presents a great example to discuss since the seller asked how much is it worth, not how much can I get if I sold it which would be a understandably less than its value in this cue market. How do you establish the cue's worth.....especially since the Blue Book doesn't have any coverage of Frey or his cues, at least not unde his name.....Thanks everyone for answering because I rely upon the Blue Book for confirming a cue's likely potential value and I know everyone has their own opinion of the Blue Book.....if Frey's not even listed, what source do you the use?
Bavafongoul (aka Matt)
I guess it's imprtant to draw a distinction, and it'a a very real one as well, between cue valuess and selling prices. Cues haven't been, and aren't currently, commanding a selling price that coincides with the estimated value. It's just be a horrible secondary reslae market for cues the past couple of years and right now it's about the worst I've seen.
The Frey cue in question is indeed a beauty and the purchaser was trying to establish its value and not a selling price. Forum readers ahve suggetsed the range is $600 - $1300 and there's a big wait on cues from Frey which doesn't add to the value of the cue. Lots of cuemakers have enormous lead times right now and some have stopped actually making cues but their cues aren't increasing in value in this market.
I think this cue owner should be delighted he got a greta looking cue and if he's with the price paid, great...if it was a terrific deal...even better...but establioshing a value is so subjective. For example, fans of Schon cues will bump up thecue for sdale all the time, same goes for Joss West, capone, carmelli, etc. Anyone that owns the same brand cue wants to believe the cue in question has a high value so they in turn think their cues are worth even more than they may actually be. It kinda makes them feel better about what they own.
Since sellers can't be relied upon to establish an accurate, relaible value of their cue for sale for obvious reasons, and the same applies to prospective buyers of the cue as well, it seems like the 3rd Edition Blue Book of Cues is the best source to use for at least bench mark value establishment....I know lots of collectors and sellers criticize the book but until something better comes along, it's all there is. You can't go by the most recent sale of a cue becuase there's too many variables tghat entere into that sale so the blue Book is the most recognized publication to use for establishing cue values....at least as far as I know.
I know Bob Frey's name, but he's not listed in the 3rd Edition Blue Book as a cuemaker and his cues aren't listed either. His name isn't in the index anywhere so my question is how can anyone say with certainty how much his cues might be worth? I know for a fact when I was discussing a different cue with another seller, I did the calculation on a Joss West level 5 cue (sideways W) and mentioend that thensller was looking for almost $800 than the cue's value and what was his underlying logic. I wasn't trying to be a smart ass but facts are facts and we all know that Joss West cues, and every other brand cue as well, on "average" aren't bringing full price and are hanging around longer than the seller expected.
You would have thought I was calling the seller a crook the way he reacted. Everyone knows that the final price is determined entirely by "supply & demand" and a buyer isn't complelled to to make an offer higher than what they think the cue is worth to them. And the seller isn't obligated to accept any priuce he thinks is too low. But some folks seem to be a wee bit sensitive about quoting the Blue Book for determining a cue's value but that's only when theBlue Book says the value is less than what they want to sell the cue for. Otherwise, that seller is the first one to quote the Blue Book to support their askling price.
So with the cue in question, and I think this presents a great example to discuss since the seller asked how much is it worth, not how much can I get if I sold it which would be a understandably less than its value in this cue market. How do you establish the cue's worth.....especially since the Blue Book doesn't have any coverage of Frey or his cues, at least not unde his name.....Thanks everyone for answering because I rely upon the Blue Book for confirming a cue's likely potential value and I know everyone has their own opinion of the Blue Book.....if Frey's not even listed, what source do you the use?
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He only paid $500.00 bucks for it on Ebay ( I saw the listing ). So regardless of what anyone thinks its worth pretty much everyone can agree 500 was probably a pretty good price. The funny part though is even though he got it as a gift the pictures he posted of it here are the exact same ones from the auction lol.
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Thanks for the feedback everyone, great insight! The Bob Frey cue that I currently own is exactly as the one posted in the pictures (however, I can assure you that the person who bought it paid way less than $500). Now, the reason why I posted these pictures, which in fact are from the Ebay auction, is to gage whether or not the cue on ebay would be a good deal to buy so that I could ultimately have a pair of this great looking and playing cue. Unfortunately, I lost the bid but I'm content with at least having one of these beauties for now.
As far as the selling, or worth of the cue, I actually began playing at a pool hall (64 tables) where I was sure to meet up with several people who know the game quite well. Unfortunately, I was dissapointed that about 4 of the 5 people who I engaged in conversation about the cue actually did not even know who Bod Frey is, and becuase I just started playing, 1 even went on to assume that I was playing with a starter cue and also added that his $100 McDermott cue was way better and of higher quality than the Frey (this one came as a bigger shocker as the guy who said is actually has a very good understanding of the game and of key players).
Nevertheless, I have come to realize that the value of the cue will strongly depend one's ability to recognize good worksmanship, the history or at least the maker of the cue, and on one's desire for it. With this mind, I'm sorry to say to you all (looking for a Frey) that the value of this cue just rose immensely!
Thanks for the feedback everyone, great insight! The Bob Frey cue that I currently own is exactly as the one posted in the pictures (however, I can assure you that the person who bought it paid way less than $500). Now, the reason why I posted these pictures, which in fact are from the Ebay auction, is to gage whether or not the cue on ebay would be a good deal to buy so that I could ultimately have a pair of this great looking and playing cue. Unfortunately, I lost the bid but I'm content with at least having one of these beauties for now.
As far as the selling, or worth of the cue, I actually began playing at a pool hall (64 tables) where I was sure to meet up with several people who know the game quite well. Unfortunately, I was dissapointed that about 4 of the 5 people who I engaged in conversation about the cue actually did not even know who Bod Frey is, and becuase I just started playing, 1 even went on to assume that I was playing with a starter cue and also added that his $100 McDermott cue was way better and of higher quality than the Frey (this one came as a bigger shocker as the guy who said is actually has a very good understanding of the game and of key players).
Nevertheless, I have come to realize that the value of the cue will strongly depend one's ability to recognize good worksmanship, the history or at least the maker of the cue, and on one's desire for it. With this mind, I'm sorry to say to you all (looking for a Frey) that the value of this cue just rose immensely!
divino1931
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Thanks for the feedback everyone, great insight! The Bob Frey cue that I currently own is exactly as the one posted in the pictures (however, I can assure you that the person who bought it paid way less than $500). Now, the reason why I posted these pictures, which in fact are from the Ebay auction, is to gage whether or not the cue on ebay would be a good deal to buy so that I could ultimately have a pair of this great looking and playing cue. Unfortunately, I lost the bid but I'm content with at least having one of these beauties for now.
As far as the selling, or worth of the cue, I actually began playing at a pool hall (64 tables) where I was sure to meet up with several people who know the game quite well. Unfortunately, I was dissapointed that about 4 of the 5 people who I engaged in conversation about the cue actually did not even know who Bod Frey is, and becuase I just started playing, 1 even went on to assume that I was playing with a starter cue and also added that his $100 McDermott cue was way better and of higher quality than the Frey (this one came as a bigger shocker as the guy who said is actually has a very good understanding of the game and of key players).
Nevertheless, I have come to realize that the value of the cue will strongly depend one's ability to recognize good worksmanship, the history or at least the maker of the cue, and on one's desire for it. With this mind, I'm sorry to say to you all (looking for a Frey) that the value of this cue just rose immensely!
Thanks for the feedback everyone, great insight! The Bob Frey cue that I currently own is exactly as the one posted in the pictures (however, I can assure you that the person who bought it paid way less than $500). Now, the reason why I posted these pictures, which in fact are from the Ebay auction, is to gage whether or not the cue on ebay would be a good deal to buy so that I could ultimately have a pair of this great looking and playing cue. Unfortunately, I lost the bid but I'm content with at least having one of these beauties for now.
As far as the selling, or worth of the cue, I actually began playing at a pool hall (64 tables) where I was sure to meet up with several people who know the game quite well. Unfortunately, I was dissapointed that about 4 of the 5 people who I engaged in conversation about the cue actually did not even know who Bod Frey is, and becuase I just started playing, 1 even went on to assume that I was playing with a starter cue and also added that his $100 McDermott cue was way better and of higher quality than the Frey (this one came as a bigger shocker as the guy who said is actually has a very good understanding of the game and of key players).
Nevertheless, I have come to realize that the value of the cue will strongly depend one's ability to recognize good worksmanship, the history or at least the maker of the cue, and on one's desire for it. With this mind, I'm sorry to say to you all (looking for a Frey) that the value of this cue just rose immensely!
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New price
By the way, a few weeks ago I had a brief conversation with Mr.Frey himself, who mentioned that a similar cue built by him new would cost about $1,500.
Best,
D
By the way, a few weeks ago I had a brief conversation with Mr.Frey himself, who mentioned that a similar cue built by him new would cost about $1,500.
Best,
D