Break cue/jump cue forfeit?

[shooter_Hans]

So those who break down their cue to jump leads to a forfeit?

If you can get disqualified for changing a shaft then what about those people that break down their break cues to jump? Some of them are the break/jump combo cues.

Hmmm…..

 

[Flakeandrun]

So those who break down their cue to jump leads to a forfeit?

If you can get disqualified for changing a shaft then what about those people that break down their break cues to jump? Some of them are the break/jump combo cues.

Hmmm…..

I wish I thought of this a couple of weeks ago

 

[JPB2]

No. It isn't a forfeit. Notwithstanding people who can't tell the sharking type of unscrewing vs. dealing with equipment. Or those who can't discern a difference between doing something when it is your turn at the table vs the moment the opponent starts their final stroke. Although it doesn't hurt to announce you are getting your jump stick.

 

[straightline]

Seems to me you can take it up with the opponent before you do it. Good enough interruption...

 

[trob]

If your not smart enough to tell the difference between me breaking a break cue down to jump and me breaking a cue down when your mid shot as a shark move I’m not interested in playing with you

 

[TrxR]

So those who break down their cue to jump leads to a forfeit?

If you can get disqualified for changing a shaft then what about those people that break down their break cues to jump? Some of them are the break/jump combo cues.

Hmmm…..

What about a person raking off their extension?

You need help with your phobia of jump cues.

 

[hang-the-9]

So those who break down their cue to jump leads to a forfeit?

If you can get disqualified for changing a shaft then what about those people that break down their break cues to jump? Some of them are the break/jump combo cues.

Hmmm…..

No, it does not. The cue is designed to come apart for that during a game.

 

[shooter_Hans]

No. It isn't a forfeit. Notwithstanding people who can't tell the sharking type of unscrewing vs. dealing with equipment. Or those who can't discern a difference between doing something when it is your turn at the table vs the moment the opponent starts their final stroke. Although it doesn't hurt to announce you are getting your jump stick.

Where have you been lately?

There was a big thread about a guy changing his shaft and it wasn't a shark move. I don't think people should assume changing a shaft is a shark move. I mean is it really hard to believe there are more legitimate players changing out a shaft versus the sharks?

If I'm not mistaken the guy did notify his opponent as well.

 

[shooter_Hans]

If your not smart enough to tell the difference between me breaking a break cue down to jump and me breaking a cue down when your mid shot as a shark move I’m not interested in playing with you

Uh...who said anyone about changing a shaft in the middle of an opponents shot?

There you go thinking again.

 

[shooter_Hans]

No, it does not. The cue is designed to come apart for that during a game.

So is a shooting cue.

BTW....I can jump a ball for those thinking I can't. I do it with my shooting cue. It's not some groundbreaking shot.

Anyways....there are people that break down their cue and jump with just a shaft. I don't like it but I've seen many do it decades ago.

 

[slide13]

Anyways....there are people that break down their cue and jump with just a shaft. I don't like it but I've seen many do it decades ago.

That is not legal, shaft alone doesn't meet the minimum length required

 

[td873]

There was a big thread about a guy changing his shaft and it wasn't a shark move.
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Uh...who said anyone about changing a shaft in the middle of an opponents shot?
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Anyways....there are people that break down their cue and jump with just a shaft. I don't like it but I've seen many do it decades ago.
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Q: which thread are you referring to. I missed it.

I don't know if/when the rules changes, but I thought there used to be a minimum cue length. I think it still applies to amateur play but I didn't see it in the WPA rules. I've never seen a pro tournament where a ball was jumped with just a shaft, but I'd be interested in seeing it.

The issue of opponent shooting is assumed because that is what the WPA rule says (breaking down your cue when opponent is shooting in the final rack).

1.11 Concession ...if a player unscrews his jointed playing cue stick while the opponent is at the table and during the opponent’s decisive rack of a match , it will be considered a concession of the match.

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[td873]

That is not legal, shaft alone doesn't meet the minimum length required

That's what I was thinking, but I didn't see it in the WPA rules. Do you know where that's stated for pro tourneys? I think amateur/BCA may have it, though.

 

[slide13]

That's what I was thinking, but I didn't see it in the WPA rules. Do you know where that's stated for pro tourneys? I think amateur/BCA may have it, though.

Under the Equipment Spec, section 17

Rules

Navigate the rules and regulations of pool with ease. Stay informed and play fair with WPA Rules!

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Cue Sticks used at WPA competitions should comply with the following
during play at table:


Length of Cue: 40 inches [1.016 m] minimum / No Maximum
Weight of Cue: No minimum / 25 oz. [708.75 gm] maximum
Width of Tip: No minimum / 14mm maximum

 

[MitchAlsup]

So those who break down their cue to jump leads to a forfeit?

If you can get disqualified for changing a shaft then what about those people that break down their break cues to jump? Some of them are the break/jump combo cues.

If you tell the referee and the opponent and get their OK's, then no forfeit is impending.

 

[tim913]

It’s one of those stupid rules in pool! If a tennis player changes rackets in the middle of a game, or a golfer throws his club back in the bag to select another, or I’ve played with some who have thrown their whole bag in a lake. No forfeits there .. dumbass rule!

 

[Flakeandrun]

Q: which thread are you referring to. I missed it.

I don't know if/when the rules changes, but I thought there used to be a minimum cue length. I think it still applies to amateur play but I didn't see it in the WPA rules. I've never seen a pro tournament where a ball was jumped with just a shaft, but I'd be interested in seeing it.

The issue of opponent shooting is assumed because that is what the WPA rule says (breaking down your cue when opponent is shooting in the final rack).


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Have I come across the ultimate nit?

I was playing in a small tournament this afternoon/evening - Field of 32. I won the first game 7-1, even while I played like trash. I blamed this performance on the new shaft I am using, an ACSS M Musashi 12.5mm, which came with a rock hard Kamui...

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Was my thread. Was a very confusing and annoying day, but I'm over it. I didn't explicitly say I was changing, but it was between racks and incredibly obvious, as I had the other shaft out and ready to go. At that point, I was up in the set, and he offered a hand, which I then shook. I thought this was his concession, but when ref asked, he said he won.

 

[hang-the-9]

So is a shooting cue.

BTW....I can jump a ball for those thinking I can't. I do it with my shooting cue. It's not some groundbreaking shot.

Anyways....there are people that break down their cue and jump with just a shaft. I don't like it but I've seen many do it decades ago.

Not the same thing at all, it's just a pretty silly argument and bad example. No one jumps with a shaft now, decades ago yes, not since they put in some better rules. Never seen a shaft jump outside of some random pool halls, if there was a pro tournament where anyone jumped with a shaft I have not run across it yet.