Break Cue: Lucasi, McDermott, or just a break tip?

jviss

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Greetings,

I confess I'm not a fan f these "help me decide" threads, but here I find myself.

I want a break cue. I like the Lucasi L-2000JB, which I can get at a good price. I also am attracted to the McDermott NG01 "Stinger."

That said, I could always put a break tip on one of the shafts that came with my recently purchased Lucasi cue.

Thoughts?

Thanks,

jv
 
If your Lucasi is your playing cue, you don't want to be changing shafts every time you break. If you really want a dedicated breaker, get a complete separate cue. Having them the same brand and joint might be a plus if you want to switch it up but I wouldn't give it that much weight.

I tried a lot of break cues and ended up with, and am very satisfied with, a Thor Hammer Joss.
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Probably lots of good break cues out there. If you lived near me, I'd let you try my J. Pechauer Break Cue. I've had it several years now. Some may be better, some worse. I really dunno. I tend to be monogamous with cues after deciding there really aren't any magic ones out there.

(edit) You can read more here if you think you're interested.

https://www.seyberts.com/pechauer-jump-break-cues
 
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Greetings,

I confess I'm not a fan f these "help me decide" threads, but here I find myself.

I want a break cue. I like the Lucasi L-2000JB, which I can get at a good price. I also am attracted to the McDermott NG01 "Stinger."

That said, I could always put a break tip on one of the shafts that came with my recently purchased Lucasi cue.

Thoughts?

Thanks,

jv
Break tip. Hammerhead
 
anyone ever notice that your playing cue breaks better than breaking cues? it does.
I break with my playing cue or a house cue. haven't had an issue yet.
 
anyone ever notice that your playing cue breaks better than breaking cues? it does.
I break with my playing cue or a house cue. haven't had an issue yet.

i know what you mean
when i was playing with my players sp i broke with it, broke real good
made 6 balls once on an 8ball break once

it just felt perfect
lepro tip
 
I've had a J&J $90special for years. Put a WhiteDiamondUltra on it and its like hitting the balls with a jackhammer. Tuff to beat for the money.
 
Greetings,

I confess I'm not a fan f these "help me decide" threads, but here I find myself.

I want a break cue. I like the Lucasi L-2000JB, which I can get at a good price. I also am attracted to the McDermott NG01 "Stinger."

That said, I could always put a break tip on one of the shafts that came with my recently purchased Lucasi cue.

Thoughts?

Thanks,

jv


In my opinion it ultimately doesn't matter. Whatever you do just get
used to it and practice breaking and before you know you'll be the best
breaker in the pool hall.

I have used, and still do, many of the super fancy breakers out there.

I still have guys that break just as good and many much better with a
house cue or their own play cue.

As long as the cue is straight you just need practice time to get used to it.
 
A break cue probably makes the least difference in someone's collection of cues. 95% of the break is in the skill, getting more speed on the break does not mean you will make more balls. All you need to do is find a hit and shaft feel you like, which won't really happen with asking, need to try or at least give some idea of what you like in a break cue. I'd also go with a hard leather tip vs phenolic.
 
Thanks, everyone, for the replies so far. I really don't know what I'm doing here, but I know I rarely sink anything on the break, and I thought maybe a harder tip would help. But maybe it won't!

Maybe I'm looking for an excuse to get another cue. I really like the Lucasi playing cue I got, and I thought the Lucasi break/jump cue looked great. I also like the McDermott NG01 break/jump set.

So, what's a good break tip? I can put one on one of my Lucasi shafts and see what happens.

Also, what's a good break technique?

Thanks again,

jv
 
My old BreakQ was 16 OZ Cheap Sneaky Pete (under $60.000 with Tiger Ice Braker Tip, I liked the lightweight, as I could really put zip on my break stroke.
 
Thanks, everyone, for the replies so far. I really don't know what I'm doing here, but I know I rarely sink anything on the break, and I thought maybe a harder tip would help. But maybe it won't!

Maybe I'm looking for an excuse to get another cue. I really like the Lucasi playing cue I got, and I thought the Lucasi break/jump cue looked great. I also like the McDermott NG01 break/jump set.

So, what's a good break tip? I can put one on one of my Lucasi shafts and see what happens.

Also, what's a good break technique?

Thanks again,

jv


a good break technique is youtube. you can find breakdowns of different games and the directions of the balls, and you practice them until you find what works. I go to the tried and true techniques, middle for tenball and eight, side for nine and inside for straight.
 
Thanks, everyone, for the replies so far. I really don't know what I'm doing here, but I know I rarely sink anything on the break, and I thought maybe a harder tip would help. But maybe it won't!

Maybe I'm looking for an excuse to get another cue. I really like the Lucasi playing cue I got, and I thought the Lucasi break/jump cue looked great. I also like the McDermott NG01 break/jump set.

So, what's a good break tip? I can put one on one of my Lucasi shafts and see what happens.

Also, what's a good break technique?

Thanks again,

jv

There are really only two things in your control and one not in your control that would be why you don't make balls on the break. One is the rack itself, you can control that if racking or can talk to the other guy so he does not leave you a slug. Two is the speed and where you hit the break shot based on the rack and how the table is. The third one you can't control are those table conditions. Is it old cloth, new cloth, how the rails are with rebounding the balls, how tight the pockets are, are the facings correct so they don't spit balls out, is it level, etc... Those conditions plus how the rack is put together would determine how you need to break for the best chance to make a ball. It's no easier to aim the break properly than any other shot and has as many variables you need to think about.

Which is why I think the break cue itself, outside of a good tip, is low on the gear scale of importance. You are not shooting the shot with spin most of the time and the speed you get the cueball to is not nearly as important as being able to read the rack and table and adjust the break based on that. Unless you are in a break speed competition I think just about any player can break hard enough for any type of condition to sink a ball. I use a house cue probably 90% of the time, even when I have my break cue with me, even in "big" tournaments. For most players the issue with the break is not with the cue, and by "most" I probably mean 99 out of 100 hehe.

You should come by Ayer again, Alex has taken several breaking lessons from the top breakers in the country and can show you how to rack, how to read the rack, how to break based on that. When he went to USAPL/BCAPL nationals he finished top 8 in a field of over 70 due to his breaking, he broke and ran several games each set which enabled him to beat players even though he was spotting games to everyone he faced except maybe one person he played even with and also he was by far the youngest in the field, he just worked on the break more than the opponents.
 
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There are really only two things in your control and one not in your control that would be why you don't make balls on the break. One is the rack itself, you can control that if racking or can talk to the other guy so he does not leave you a slug. Two is the speed and where you hit the break shot based on the rack and how the table is. The third one you can't control are those table conditions. Is it old cloth, new cloth, how the rails are with rebounding the balls, how tight the pockets are, are the facings correct so they don't spit balls out, is it level, etc... Those conditions plus how the rack is put together would determine how you need to break for the best chance to make a ball. It's no easier to aim the break properly than any other shot and has as many variables you need to think about.

Which is why I think the break cue itself, outside of a good tip, is low on the gear scale of importance. You are not shooting the shot with spin most of the time and the speed you get the cueball to is not nearly as important as being able to read the rack and table and adjust the break based on that. Unless you are in a break speed competition I think just about any player can break hard enough for any type of condition to sink a ball. I use a house cue probably 90% of the time, even when I have my break cue with me, even in "big" tournaments. For most players the issue with the break is not with the cue, and by "most" I probably mean 99 out of 100 hehe.

You should come by Ayer again, Alex has taken several breaking lessons from the top breakers in the country and can show you how to rack, how to read the rack, how to break based on that. When he went to USAPL/BCAPL nationals he finished top 8 in a field of over 70 due to his breaking, he broke and ran several games each set which enabled him to beat players even though he was spotting games to everyone he faced except maybe one person he played even with and also he was by far the youngest in the field, he just worked on the break more than the opponents.
Thanks for the detailed reply, and what sounds like great advice. I stopped getting to Ayer when I got a new job in Boston. It was initially supposed to be in Chelmsford, which would have been great, to get to Ayer Tuesday evenings, and other evenings. I guess I could still make it there Tuesday evenings, as long as I drive myself to the station those days.
 
I'm a firm believer that the Stinger is one of the best bang for your buck break cues there are. It breaks and jumps great with a little practice.

A cheaper route is if you have a spare butt laying around, Dale Chilton makes break shafts for around 100 dollars and I break with my Chilton more than I do my Rush.
 
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