break patches?
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The break patch (aka cloth), only protects the area just under the cue ball. The cue ball after contact lands on the area just before the one ball at different locations, no protection here that I can see.
instroke2 said:
instroke2 said:
And where is the line between a new cloth and an old one? I can understand it on a home table but at a commercial pool hall it's futile....
The cloth is gonna be worn in less then a week anyway...
What's next? no jumping....
Find a different place to play
As a room owner that does make players use a break cloth,
When you get a player that breaks every rack just practicing, it puts a hole in the cloth in that spot after very little time. The extra time I get out of the cloth is well worth it to me.
Plus there is less *****in about the wear and tear especially from the players that are so hard on the equipment and messed them up in the first place.
highrun55
When you get a player that breaks every rack just practicing, it puts a hole in the cloth in that spot after very little time. The extra time I get out of the cloth is well worth it to me.
Plus there is less *****in about the wear and tear especially from the players that are so hard on the equipment and messed them up in the first place.
highrun55
I was a big disbeliver in break cloths. But, reluctantly we started using them this year just after recovering all 32 tables.
That was in June. Almost 4 monts later, the break line divits (burn marks) are nearly non-exsistant.
The only burn spots are just the pattern made towards the one ball from the left or right sides of the table.
The cloth looks a lot better than they ever had after 4 months of play.
And we do allow jumping, just with a full cue, NO JUMP CUES.
That was in June. Almost 4 monts later, the break line divits (burn marks) are nearly non-exsistant.
The only burn spots are just the pattern made towards the one ball from the left or right sides of the table.
The cloth looks a lot better than they ever had after 4 months of play.
And we do allow jumping, just with a full cue, NO JUMP CUES.
skor said:
I like them
Dan Louie uses one for breaking.I think they are great for jump practice too.
Dan Louie uses one for breaking.I think they are great for jump practice too.
Tom In Cincy said:
I definately agree with this in terms of protecting the table and use a break cloth on my table at home. I've even been known to carry one in my case and use it on other peoples tables. However how do you effectively enforce this in a busy Pool Hall?
instroke2 said:
I think the patch is good for the cloth but also acts as a trampoline for the cue ball so it takes higher/longer bounces and hits the head ball at a different height. It might not matter (it might even be an improvement), but if the cue ball is jumping off the head ball you can try moving the cue ball to make the break distance a little longer or shorter (or change the speed, but I don't like that idea as much).
pj
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instroke2 said:
one of the better pool halls near my mansion uses an entire surface size of spare cloth. in my opinion, this is the best way to prevent table damage. the hardest part, though, is repositioning the balls exactly where they were once you remove the cloth from underneath them.
Tom In Cincy said:
How about masse shots???
Just go a head and ban 8ball, 9ball and most of all pool games....
In fact take the pool tables out and bring snooker tables in, there are no big breaks in snooker...
Sorry but this is ridicules... the playing equipment has developed over the years to brings improvements to the game, this is usually at the cost of durability. Simonis 860 (that was especially designed for 9ball) is what most player prefer to play on but it is the less durable cloth there is and it shows burn marks faster then other brands. Maybe you should put napped cloth like they used at the IPT...
You should not stop progress at your door step, this how businesses are getting closed....
instroke2 said:
As most know I am also a room owner, and I don't make the players use the break cloth. I cover my tables about once a year, and they certainly get a great deal of use. However, there are other methods that can be used to protect the cloth, and make it wear longer. First, the balls should be the best quality possible, especially the cue ball. Most know that 90% of the burn spots are caused by the cue ball during break and jump shots. But these marks can also occur if the cue ball is hit very hard with even a slight downward stroke. By buying Aramith Pro Balls at a minimum, you are already reducing friction marks a great deal. These balls are specially treated to reduce friction at the surface of the cloth by a decent percentage. Next, keep the table clean, a dirty table will cause the balls to pickup all kinds of material (Dirt) from the table which will increase the friction marks. Last change the spot to the other end of the table monthly, this will allow the cloth to wear more evenly and it will last twice as long as normal.
In addition many places use cheaper cloth, which will wear out much more quickly than Quality Cloth like Simonis. I only use Simonis 860 on my tables, I have tried the other brands and none wear as well and also in my opinion play as well as Simonis.
I have tried different thing since I opened my room, and I am pleased with the results by doing the above. I also tried the break cloth, and I certainly agree with another poster in this thread, it will make the ball jump because you are shooting from a elevated position.
Just my thoughts
manwon said:
I agree with you about keeping the equipment clean will prolong the life of the cloth.
The Aramith TV balls have a sleeker finish then the regular super-pro or the Brunswick Centennial and will reduce burn marks more then other pro level balls.
The Simonis 860HR is more durable then the standard 860 (but it's a bit faster)