Break Stats -- 2024 Las Vegas Open (Predator Pro Billiard Series) 10-Ball, February 2024

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Here are some aggregate break statistics from the 2024 Las Vegas Open 10-Ball event played February 21-24, 2024 at the Rio All-Suite Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas. Streaming was free on Pro Billiard TV's YouTube channel. This was the first event of this year's Predator Pro Billiard Series. The commentators were Jim Wych, Mark White, Eric Hjorleifson, Tim De Ruyter, George Teyechea, Chris Reinhold, and Mika Immonen. The referees were from the European Pocket Billiard Federation (EPBF). Lee Vann Corteza won the event, defeating Carlo Biado in the final match.

96 players entered the event, with 32 seeded into the second round. The format was double-elimination down to 32 players (16 on the winners' side and 16 on the one-loss side). A random draw then matched one player from each side against each other, with single-elimination play from that point to the conclusion. In the double-elimination portion, each match was two races to 4. If the same player won both races, he won the match. If the two races to 4 were split, a shootout determined the winner. In the single-elimination portion, each match was the best two out of three races to 4, with a shootout determining the winner of the third set (and, therefore, of the match) if that set was tied at hill/hill (3-3).

The 22 matches (254 games) I tracked were all of the men's-event matches that were streamed on the two feature tables (Table 1 and Table 2) and were available for replay on YouTube. Five of these matches ended with a shootout. These 22 matches were 13% of the total of 170 matches played in the event (175 scheduled, 5 not played).

The conditions for the streamed matches included:
- Predator Apex 9-foot table;​
- Predator Arcadia Reserve Tournament Blue cloth;​
- Predator Arcos II balls, including a black-triangles cue ball;​
- Predator Arena lights;​
- referee racks using a Predator Aerorack triangle rack, with the 1-ball on the spot (2-ball and 3-ball need not be on the back corners);​
- winner breaks from anywhere behind the head string;​
- call shots (but not safes), with the opponent having a choice of shooting or passing it back after a ball is pocketed illegally;​
- early combinations or caroms on the 10-ball, if called, are game winners;​
- a 10-ball made in any pocket on a break is spotted (not a game win);​
- jump cues allowed;​
- foul on all balls;​
- 3-foul rule in effect (occurred once);​
- 30-second shot clock (60 seconds after the break and after a push out) with one 30-second extension allowed per player per game; and​
- lag for opening break.​

The 22 tracked matches (254 games) were as follows. Matches 1 through 13 were in the double-elimination stage, and matches 14 through 22 in the single-elimination stage. Ouschan won match 4 in 2 sets (no shootout); but the stream went down after the first 9 games, so the last 3 games of that match are not in the stats.

Wednesday, February 21, 2024
1. Sina Valizadeh defeated Skyler Woodward 4-1, 1-4, shootout​
2. Shane Van Boening d. Hayato Hijikata 4-0, 4-1​
3. Chang Jung-Lin d. Payne McBride 4-0, 4-2​
4. Albin Ouschan d. Kledio Kaçi 4-2, 4-unk. (stats for first 9 games)​
5. Lee Vann Corteza d. Aloysius Yapp 4-2, 1-4, shootout​
6. Daniel Maciol d. Shucheng Chao 4-0, 4-2​
7. Sharik Sayed d. Angel Rivera 4-0, 4-2​

Thursday, Feb. 22
8. Van Boening d. Tyler Styer 4-0, 4-0​
9. Ko Pin Yi d. Ouschan 4-3, 4-0​
10. Woodward d. McBride 4-3, 4-3​
11. Ben Francis d. Victor Cucuzza 4-1, 4-3​

Friday, Feb. 23
12. Ko Ping Chung d. Maciol 4-1, 3-4, shootout​
13. Mario He d. Kledio Kaçi 3-4, 4-3, shootout​
14. Ouschan d. Van Boening 4-0, 4-3 (Last 32)​
15. John Morra d. Joshua Filler 4-3, 4-3 (Last 32)​
16. Fedor Gorst d. Wiktor Zielinski 4-0, 4-3 (Last 16)​
17. Alex Kazakis d. Eklent Kaçi 4-2, 2-4, 4-2 (Last 16)​

Sat., Feb. 24
18. Francisco Sanchez-Ruiz d. Gorst 4-0, 4-0 (Quarterfinal)​
19. Carlo Biado d. Tyler Styer 2-4, 4-2, 3-3, shootout (Quarterfinal)​
20. Corteza d. Ko PC 4-3, 4-0 (Semifinal)​
21. Biado d. Sanchz-Ruiz 4-1, 4-1 (Semifinal)​
22. Corteza d. Biado 4-2, 4-3 (Final)​

Overall results

Successful breaks (made at least one ball and did not foul):
Match winners -- 51% (76 of 150)​
Match losers -- 43% (45 of 104)​
Total -- 48% (121 of 254)
Breaker won the game:
Match winners -- 67% (101 of 150)​
Match losers -- 35% (36 of 104)​
Total -- 54% (137 of 254)
Break-and-run games on all breaks:
Match winners -- 16% (24 of 150)​
Match losers -- 10% (10 of 104)​
Total -- 13% (34 of 254)
Break-and-run games on successful breaks (made at least one ball and did not foul):
Match winners -- 32% (24 of 76)​
Match losers -- 22% (10 of 45)​
Total -- 28% (34 of 121)

Here's a breakdown of the 254 games (for match winners and losers combined).

Breaker made at least one ball and did not foul:​
Breaker won the game: 83 (33% of the 254 games)​
Breaker lost the game: 38 (15%)​
Breaker fouled on the break:​
Breaker won the game: 5 (2%)​
Breaker lost the game: 7 (3%)​
Breaker broke dry (without fouling):​
Breaker won the game: 49 (19%)​
Breaker lost the game: 72 (28%)​
Therefore, whereas the breaker won 54% (137 of 254) of all games,​
He won 69% (83 of 121) of the games in which the break was successful (made at least one ball and did not foul).​
He won 41% (54 of 133) of the games in which the break was unsuccessful (fouled or dry).​

Break-and-run games -- The 34 break-and-run games represented 13% of all 254 games, 25% of the 137 games won by the breaker, and 28% of the 121 games in which the break was successful (made a ball and didn't foul).

The 34 break-and-run games consisted of 5 2-packs (one each by McBride, Ko PC, Sanchez-Ruiz, Styer, and Corteza) and 24 singles. No one in these 22 matches broke and ran more than 2 games in a row.

Two of the 22 matches contained 4 B&Rs, 2 matches had 3, 6 matches had 2, 8 matches had 1, and 4 matches had no B&Rs.

10-Balls on the break -- 8 (3.1% of the 254 breaks); they were spotted.
 
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Miscellany from the data for the 2024 Las Vegas Open 10-Ball event:
[This relates only to the 22 streamed matches I watched, not to all matches in the event.]

• The most balls made on a single break was 3, done 6 times. Five of those games were won by the breaker, including 3 by B&R.

• The average number of balls made on the break was 0.7 (this includes dry and fouled breaks). On successful breaks (made at least one ball and did not foul), the average was 1.4.

• Number of innings:
34% (86 of 254) of the games ended in one inning – 34 games on the breaker's first inning (B&Rs) and 52 games on the non-breaker's first inning.​
30% (75 of 254) of the games ended in the second inning.​
37% (93 of 254) of the games went beyond the non-breaker's second visit to the table. The game with the most visits to the table was one that ended on the non-breaker's 8th visit.​

• 27% (68 of 254) of the games were run out by the player who was at the table following the break. These run-outs were:
- By the breaker after successful breaks (B&R games) – 28% (34 of 121)​
- By the non-breaker after fouls on the break – 50% (6 of 12)​
- By the non-breaker after dry breaks – 23% (28 of 121)​

• The player who made the first ball after the break:
- Won the game in that same inning 55% of the time (139 of 254)​
- Won the game in a later inning 18% of the time (46 of 254)​
- Lost the game 27% of the time (69 of 254)​

• The loser won an average of 1.6 games in the 45 races to 4 in the 22 matches. Twelve of those 45 races ended at a score of 4-0, 8 at 4-1, 12 at 4-2, and 13 at 4-3. In addition, one match in the single-elimination stage had a third set that went to 3-3, causing a shootout.

• Five of these 22 matches had shootouts, 4 in the double-elimination stage and 1 in the single-elimination stage. The shootouts averaged 7.4 shots at an average of about 46 seconds each (including "racking").

• The average minutes per game for the 254 games was 6.7. The elapsed time for each match was measured from the lag until the winning ball was made for the last race to 4 or 3-3 tie in a third set (i.e., shootouts not included), so it includes time for racking and timeouts between races.

• The match that was longest in elapsed time, at about 134 minutes, was Kazakis d. E. Kaçi. The match highest in average minutes per game, at 8.3, was Sayed d. Rivera.

• The match that was shortest in elapsed time, at about 50 minutes, was Van Boening d. Styer. The match lowest in average minutes per game, at 5.3, was Maciol d. Chao.

• Breaking fouls averaged 1 for every 21.2 games, other fouls 1 for every 3.1 games, and missed shots about 1 for every 1.8 games.

• One or more safeties were played in about 53% of all games and 61% of games that were not B&Rs.
 
Does anyone know how the Predator Apex tables play relative to a standard Diamond pro table? What are the pocket specifications? Curious, as the pros "only" ran out 13% from the break and no packages ran.

Maybe I have a chance to cash in one of these events after all. 🤣🤣🤣
 
Does anyone know how the Predator Apex tables play relative to a standard Diamond pro table? What are the pocket specifications? Curious, as the pros "only" ran out 13% from the break and no packages ran. ...
Breaking on these Predator tables has been tough in most of these Pro Billiard Series events. They switched to 4 1/4" corners back in 2022. But I didn't put that spec in post #1 for this recent event, because I never heard confirmation of it during the streamed matches. For the 5 events in this series for which I have posted stats since the start of 2023, the matches I tracked produced stats (combined for all 5 events) of 48% for successful breaks and 14% for B&Rs.

As for how the Predator tables play relative to Diamonds, I don't have any recent stats for 10-Ball on Diamond 9-footers with 4 1/4" pockets and using triangle racks.
 
Breaking on these Predator tables has been tough in most of these Pro Billiard Series events. They switched to 4 1/4" corners back in 2022. But I didn't put that spec in post #1 for this recent event, because I never heard confirmation of it during the streamed matches. For the 5 events in this series for which I have posted stats since the start of 2023, the matches I tracked produced stats (combined for all 5 events) of 48% for successful breaks and 14% for B&Rs.

As for how the Predator tables play relative to Diamonds, I don't have any recent stats for 10-Ball on Diamond 9-footers with 4 1/4" pockets and using triangle racks.
My hat's off to you my friend. You have contributed mightily to the content here, and I for one appreciate it.

I continue to remain skeptical that pockets approaching 4" with deep shelves contribute much to the game. I'm even more skeptical if one factors in the other, non rotation games, which I really wish we would see more of, IMHO. Bank pool especially sucks on super tight tables. I must be in the minority in wishing that more games, banks especially, were on display more often.
 
Shootouts -- What was the frequency of shootouts in this year's Las Vegas Open events?
[Note: this is for all of the matches in the events, not just the ones I tracked.]

Double-Elimination Stage
Open (men's) event -- 42 shootouts in 139 matches = 30%​
Women's event -- 25 shootouts in 72 matches = 35%​

Single-Elimination Stage

Open (men's) event (31 matches)​
23 matches (74%) ended in 2 sets​
3 matches (10%) ended in 3 sets without a shootout​
5 matches (16%) ended with a shootout in the 3rd set​
Women's event (15 matches)​
8 matches (53%) ended in 2 sets​
4 matches (27%) ended in 3 sets without a shootout​
3 matches (20%) ended with a shootout in the 3rd set​
[Counts based on match results on the probilliardseries.com website.]
 
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... Bank pool especially sucks on super tight tables. I must be in the minority in wishing that more games, banks especially, were on display more often.
The DCC went to 4¼" pockets in 2023 and then went back to 4½" pockets this year (except for the Bigfoot event). But, yes, we certainly don't see much bank pool.
 
What is a shootout? One single final rack of 10 ball?
Nope. The 10-ball is placed on the table where it would be when racked for a standard game of 10-Ball, i.e., about 3.9 inches behind the foot spot. The players then alternate turns taking shots to make the 10-ball in the foot pockets from boxes ("zones") that are one diamond wide next to the side rails behind the head string. A given player also alternates his shots between the left side and the right side. If they reach sudden death in the shootout, the cue ball must be placed at least one diamond behind the head string (still within the box).

The winner is most pots out of 4 attempts. If tied at 4, it goes to sudden death innings.
 
Nope. The 10-ball is placed on the table where it would be when racked for a standard game of 10-Ball, i.e., about 3.9 inches behind the foot spot. The players then alternate turns taking shots to make the 10-ball in the foot pockets from boxes ("zones") that are one diamond wide next to the side rails behind the head string. A given player also alternates his shots between the left side and the right side. If they reach sudden death in the shootout, the cue ball must be placed at least one diamond behind the head string (still within the box).

The winner is most pots out of 4 attempts. If tied at 4, it goes to sudden death innings.
Well that's different. Thanks!
 
Yup. Shootouts like this were introduced when the US Pro Billiard Series started in 2021. Deciding matches via shootouts was also done in Darren Appleton's World Pool Series that started in 2017.
I wonder how the players feel about it?
 
I wonder how the players feel about it?
A lot of the player feedback about the shootouts seems to have been negative. But Chris Reinhold, commentating right now on one of the mixed-doubles matches, said he likes it, as it is "more fun" than a straight race to 8. And Jim Wych just proclaimed it the "holy grail" from the fans' perspective -- "they love it." Hmm.
 
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A lot of the player feedback aboout the shootouts seems to have been negative. Chris Reinhold, commentating right now on one of the mixed-doubles matches, said he likes it, as it is "more fun" than a straight race to 8. And Jim Wych just proclaimed it the "holy grail" from the fans' perspective -- "they love it." Hmm.

they work for predator. go figure. one of the commentators also praised the refs lag dramatics in this tournament yesterday
 
A lot of the player feedback about the shootouts seems to have been negative. But Chris Reinhold, commentating right now on one of the mixed-doubles matches, said he likes it, as it is "more fun" than a straight race to 8. And Jim Wych just proclaimed it the "holy grail" from the fans' perspective -- "they love it." Hmm.
Hmmm indeed. Now that I think about it, I don't think I'd like watching pros shoot what sounds like for all intents and purposes, a spot shot repeatedly. Sounds boring as hell to be honest. IMHO. But predator has the cheddar, so they can certainly do as they please. The "holy grail" of pool is to watch pros play pool dangit. Hey, it's important to get feisty on a lazy Sunday afternoon....😈🤣😈🤣😈🤣😈
 
Here are some aggregate break statistics from the 2024 Las Vegas Open 10-Ball event played February 21-24, 2024 at the Rio All-Suite Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas. Streaming was free on Pro Billiard TV's YouTube channel. This was the first event of this year's Predator Pro Billiard Series. The commentators were Jim Wych, Mark White, Eric Hjorleifson, Tim De Ruyter, George Teyechea, Chris Reinhold, and Mika Immonen. The referees were from the European Pocket Billiard Federation (EPBF). Lee Vann Corteza won the event, defeating Carlo Biado in the final match.

96 players entered the event, with 32 seeded into the second round. The format was double-elimination down to 32 players (16 on the winners' side and 16 on the one-loss side). A random draw then matched one player from each side against each other, with single-elimination play from that point to the conclusion. In the double-elimination portion, each match was two races to 4. If the same player won both races, he won the match. If the two races to 4 were split, a shootout determined the winner. In the single-elimination portion, each match was the best two out of three races to 4, with a shootout determining the winner of the the third set (and, therefore, of the match) if that set was tied at hill/hill (3-3).

The 22 matches (254 games) I tracked were all of the men's-event matches that were streamed on the two feature tables (Table 1 and Table 2) and were available for replay on YouTube. Five of these matches ended with a shootout. These 22 matches were 13% of the total of 170 matches played in the event (175 scheduled, 5 not played).

The conditions for the streamed matches included:
- Predator Apex 9-foot table;​
- Predator Arcadia Reserve Tournament Blue cloth;​
- Predator Arcos II balls, including a black-triangles cue ball;​
- Predator Arena lights;​
- referee racks using a Predator Aerorack triangle rack, with the 1-ball on the spot (2-ball and 3-ball need not be on the back corners);​
- winner breaks from anywhere behind the head string;​
- call shots (but not safes), with the opponent having a choice of shooting or passing it back after a ball is pocketed illegally;​
- early combinations or caroms on the 10-ball, if called, are game winners;​
- a 10-ball made in any pocket on a break is spotted (not a game win);​
- jump cues allowed;​
- foul on all balls;​
- 3-foul rule in effect (occurred once);​
- 30-second shot clock (60 seconds after the break and after a push out) with one 30-second extension allowed per player per game; and​
- lag for opening break.​

Do we know the corner pocket size for this event? They looked larger than the 4.25” used in previous events. I would like to add it to the break stats summary page.
 
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A lot of the player feedback about the shootouts seems to have been negative. But Chris Reinhold, commentating right now on one of the mixed-doubles matches, said he likes it, as it is "more fun" than a straight race to 8. And Jim Wych just proclaimed it the "holy grail" from the fans' perspective -- "they love it." Hmm.

I'm not accusing Chris Reinhold of anything but, is he paid by Predator to do commentary? I just can't see any pro player who would want this, unless they are in a match where they are clearly outgunned?
 
Do we know the corner pocket size for this event? They looked larger than the 4.25” used in previous events. I would like to add it to the break stats summary page.
They have been using 4¼" since 2022. But I didn't put that spec in post #1 this time, because I never heard confirmation of it during the streamed matches. During one of the matches Mika Immonen (commentating) asked Jim Wych (commentating) what the pocket size was. Adding a little humor, Jim replied that he didn't even know the size of the balls.
 
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