Thx Dave. I remember when I first started in the early 60's I read this small instructional article, by the BCA. Mosconi was giving helpful hints on how to play. One piece I took to heart, and mind you back then NO one would help you improve, and there were Very few books out at that time. I learned from that pamphlet, if you wanna make a ball that's frozen to the rail, you must hit the ball and the rail at the same time, so I groomed my entire game with that concept in mind, and during the days of 14.1, getting the correct angle (speed control) for me was key in running 50 balls, then the next threshold was 80 then the next threshold was 100 or more. I never knew or heard about Squirt, deflection, gearing and all those aspects of ball collisions, I just played and developed allot of bad habits, but because of the way I taught myself, my speed control is as good as it can be. Have a great fall and might see ya at the turkey shoot.