Brunswick Centurian vs GC - Opinions?

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Has anyone ever played on one of these? I really like the looks and the price point, but I am wondering how play compares to a gold crown. My local dealer does not have one set up, so I can't play on it before ordering. Any info appreciated!

NOTE - I know there are alot of people who prefer other brands of tables, and I really am not looking for those opinions here. Just info on the centurian and GC, please!
 
I won't be much help cause i don't own any however i do play on the GC on the poolhall. I haven't played on the centuron yet but my friend owns one and he likes it alot. I might go to his house tomorrow and try it out. But all i can say right now is my friend hasn't complained anything with his centuron.
 
No where near! Those 2 tables are just about as far apart as any 2 table they make. I have spoke about those tables before....and had someone get offended because they owned one. We have set up a few of those.......they just aren't that good of a table. If you don't spend over 3000 on a Brunswick it doesn't play very good. Might look ok but as far as quality ....NO! Brunswick name ain't what it use to be these days.
 
My choice?...........In my opinion I would say an older Gold Crown that needs fixxing up, or even a Brunswicks Sportsking. The Sportskings play solid and the only thing that really goes needs fixxing on those table when they get older.....is the skirts, whichare just cosmetic. For the money I say older tables are worth the investment, because you have something! Not like the tables they spit out these days.
 
The brunswick GC is pretty expensive here...i mean and i mean expensive in candian value, you really gotta be rich to afford that table, heck my friend is some wut rich and he bought a centuron which is expensive enuf already. I guesse just because it has the name brunswick we can expect it pay a pretty hefty price in it, which is why the Dufferin tables are pretty popular somewut at least for the household type. Very affordable and it last long.
 
My dislike of a few Duffrins we setup was the slate system. They use something I think they call a floating slate. They don't have any slate bolts, the slates just float on top of the frame. Not sure if it was a certian model they made or what but I don't like that setup at all. Cardinal..........when I said GC, I was saying picking a used one up.....like an older one that needed some work maybe.
 
PTM-

Have you ever looked underneath a Centurion?

The one I own has the EXACT same heavy laminated frame as the GC, use the exact same slates & rails. They only difference is in the blinds/cosmetics of the table , like polished chrome corner gaurds, and rail gaurds, and that you can get a ball return on the GC where I dont beleive you can on the Centurion. Hell my table even has the EXACT same super poly black rails as used on a GC.

How is THAT so Different?

AZ, this guy does not know what he is talking about, go into your local Brunswick dealer and talk to them about the slate, frame, and rails used between each table.

Edit...there is one major differencebetween thse tables. Leg Levelers do not come on older centurions, but that is all I can think of.

I play on 9' GC's at my local hall, and on my pro 8 Centurion at home and notice no difference between the tables except length. That's one of the main reasons I bought it. The other reason is that if you find a GC or Centurion in good shape that has chrome trim and poly black rails, there isn't a prettier table out there IMO.
 
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You sold to many Blud cues dude.......Those 2 tables are as far apart as any 2 tables Brunswick has made. We went thru this before .......... like I said I didn't mean to offend you people that have bought a Centurion..........but that table is no where near a GC. The frames are different.........the rails are different. Etc.......don't start this shit again dude! You don't know a thing about tables...........ask you mentor bluder to comment on the 2 tables if you honetly think those two tables are the same. We use to be Brunswick dealers and have setup more Brunswicks than you have seen! And have sold and setup a few of these Centurions. And actually set one up in a guys house until his Peter Vitaly Lord Nelson came in..........and he said to take that Brunswick and throw it away! That table is a cheap version for the people that either can't afford a GC or just don't want to spend the money. Sorry if the truth hurts about your table.....but don't say I don't know what I am talking about just because you bought one BUD!
 
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I will give you the benifit of the doubt and hope you are just mistaken about the names of the tables KING. The Medalist! is the same table as the GC except the legs. Maybe this is what you mean. The Centuiron is not! Hopefully when you realize your mistake about being wrong....you have the courtesy to be a man and admit you are wrong.
 
I totally disagree. I dont care about how many tables you have set up....Maybe you have too much bondo in your eyes to see that the Centurions that are a few years old are built on the EXACT same foundation. Shit I will even take pictures of the frame and components and post them if you dont beleive me. Stay tuned.

And I know plenty about tables. You set up and install tables. Big whoop. You have some knowledge on setup, shimming, levelling, laying the felt, etc. Bigger whoop. I have setup plenty of tables myself in my day with alot of different installers who are friends of mine. It doesnt take a college degree, just a little practice and someone to show you the tricks. My Mentor is not Leonard Bludworth. He is an friend and associate that I do business with.

So you used to be a Brunswick dealer? .....must be small time if you couldn't buy into their new program.


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Flame away PTM, since you are soo good at it
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See...........this guy can't stand that he is wrong. You are amazing....you have to be related to Bludworth. Take us some pics..........or better yet go to Brunswicks site. And look at the Medalist.....GC and the Centurion. Then come back and tell us again which table you speak off. Why is it so hard to be civil. You blow up because you THINK I am wrong. You want so bad for me to be wrong you have to make things up. Anybody else weigh in on this! Because it amazes me this guy can be this ignorant about these 2 tables. Here is Brunswicks page............... http://www.brunswick-billiards.com/products/brunswick/tables/competition/competition.html
 
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I know what type of table I own, dont need to go to their site to see.
It is a Centurion, and I will be happy to take pictures of the frame and everything else tonight to prove my point.
I will post them tonight or tomorrow.

Are YOU absolutely sure that Brunswick doesnt, or never did make their Centurions with the same components as Gold Crown's? Remeber, we are talking about tables of a few years back. Specifically, my Centurion is about 4 years old, but looks showroom new. As far as new Centurions go, you could be right. I dont know for a fact that the new tables have the same frames.


I dont think I blew up here PTM. I just responded to your comments withthe same attitude and tone that you responded to me with. I resolve issues in a civil matter all day long in my profession.
 
PTM said it best, table nowadays aren't as good.
Gold Crown III's play like KAKA.
GC I's and II's fixed up are the best for the dollar imo.
 
CENTURIONS have always been CETURIONS.....and MEDALISTS have always been MEDALISTS........lmao! So now your not wrong? It is because of time???? What is the deal KING? You are funny KING............instead of admiting your wrong, it is the fact that you think Brunswick has played a trick on you and changed the names of these tables.....is that what your saying?????
 
CENTURIONS have always been CETURIONS.....and MEDALISTS have always been MEDALISTS........
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I agree with that comment, but have these models always been made the same? I think we are comparing apples to oranges here. Maybe the truth is that all the old Centurions and GC were made the same, but nowadays they only make the GC with the high end components?

instead of admiting your wrong, it is the fact that you think Brunswick has played a trick on you and changed the names of these tables.....is that what your saying?????
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I'm not wrong as you will see when I post the picutres showing the 8 or 10 layered laminated frame that my centurion sits on right now. I hope you are man enough to admit you were wrong PTM. Would you be able to do that, here on this forum, if you were proven wrong? We will see.
 
The tables have always been made the same. The Medalist is a more affordable version of the GC....I guess because of the leg system and the feet. The Centurion is a different table. The frames might be close or made of the same woods. I never ment to get in a pissing match over this with you.......but you say I don't know what I am talking about, and state it like an asshole! All you have to do is look at the web page I posted above......they have made these tables in these same version for the last 10 years or so. GC being the top of the line Commercial table, followed by the Medalist being a step down in price, and then a cheaper table the Centurion. They have not changed much at all. Like this post started out before you showed your ignorance...............How do the GC and the Centurion compare?.................they don't! That is like comparing apples and oranges! For the money it would be better to find an old Gold Crown that needs work........than to spend the money on a Centurion! Period! Point! Blank!
 
I still disagree PTM. The centurion is not a different table. This photo of the frame of my Centurion shows a laminated frame not unlike that used for the Gold Crown. I was advised by the dealer and installer of my table that Centurions were made using the same rails and frame as the GC's
At the time I purchased it That may not be the case today, but that is not my argument. The gold crowns do use a harder laminate wood for rail construction than the Centurion, but that doesnt affect playability too much IMO.
The exact same cushions are used, slates, frame, Poly finish. How can this table be so different? Please tell me if you know, list the differing components!!
Like this post started out before you showed your ignorance
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I call BS again PTM, you are the only one who stated an opinion here, why would you disagree with yourself?

Here is the picture of the frame of my table, now go look at a 4-5 year old GC and compare. Please let me know what you think.


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KingCarem, this does not look like the frame of my GC.
Not taking sides and or getting involved in the name calling.
 
Gezzus christ dude. You are amazing king. You get caught in a lie....trying to make me look like a liar. Then when your busted.....you say oh ....well....maybe they changed the tables these days.......mine was different than what they make now. JUST GO TO THE WEB SITE I POSTED ABOVE.........IT CLEARLY SHOWS THAT YOU ARE IGNORANT ON THIS SUBJECT! AND ARE JUST TRYING TO MAKE THINGS UPS!
 
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