Brunswick Medalist
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Dilemma
Here is my dilemma:
I put 860 cloth on this Medalist and converted it to drop pockets. It's a furniture model meaning there is no laminate on the rails. They are all wood. When I picked this table up it was evident from the staple holes that it was the original install meaning this table is in excellent condition. It plays fantastic, looks even better, and is no doubt any pool players dream for a home table.
Now I can get a Gold Crown 3, 10 miles from my house for $350! Yes $350! It came with the guy's house, he is not a pool player and wants the space. I checked it out last night. It looks as if it may have spent it's early years in a pool hall, but all in all it's in good shape. The ball return box is a bit messed up from the triangle being pulled in and out but that is a non-issue since I would convert it to drop pockets anyway. The rails are in great shape as well as the slate, pedestals, and aprons. 3 of the corner castings are shiny copper but one has a dark green patina as if it was omitted from whatever refinishing was done on the other 3. I would probably either have this green one done like the others, or have them all powder coated.
The dilemma is whether it is worth it to swap tables and sell my Medalist.
I would love to hear any opinions.
Here's some pictures of the Gold Crown:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AWTLZVMHee5_ZGZ3Y2hxaDZfNTI2Zno5N3ZqZng&hl=en
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AWTLZVMHee5_ZGZ3Y2hxaDZfNTI4Z3Z2cXQ4Z2c&hl=en
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AWTLZVMHee5_ZGZ3Y2hxaDZfNTMwcGdqMmR6ZHo&hl=en
Here is my dilemma:
I put 860 cloth on this Medalist and converted it to drop pockets. It's a furniture model meaning there is no laminate on the rails. They are all wood. When I picked this table up it was evident from the staple holes that it was the original install meaning this table is in excellent condition. It plays fantastic, looks even better, and is no doubt any pool players dream for a home table.
Now I can get a Gold Crown 3, 10 miles from my house for $350! Yes $350! It came with the guy's house, he is not a pool player and wants the space. I checked it out last night. It looks as if it may have spent it's early years in a pool hall, but all in all it's in good shape. The ball return box is a bit messed up from the triangle being pulled in and out but that is a non-issue since I would convert it to drop pockets anyway. The rails are in great shape as well as the slate, pedestals, and aprons. 3 of the corner castings are shiny copper but one has a dark green patina as if it was omitted from whatever refinishing was done on the other 3. I would probably either have this green one done like the others, or have them all powder coated.
The dilemma is whether it is worth it to swap tables and sell my Medalist.
I would love to hear any opinions.
Here's some pictures of the Gold Crown:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AWTLZVMHee5_ZGZ3Y2hxaDZfNTI2Zno5N3ZqZng&hl=en
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AWTLZVMHee5_ZGZ3Y2hxaDZfNTI4Z3Z2cXQ4Z2c&hl=en
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AWTLZVMHee5_ZGZ3Y2hxaDZfNTMwcGdqMmR6ZHo&hl=en
The photo's aren't publically accessable.
To be honest IMHO the Medalist plays just as well as a GC does. The big difference between the two is in a commercial setting where the GC does better with wear and tear. If you're happy with how your Medalist plays I'd say just keep it. Maybe buy the GC for $350 and resell it to make a profit
Brian
To be honest IMHO the Medalist plays just as well as a GC does. The big difference between the two is in a commercial setting where the GC does better with wear and tear. If you're happy with how your Medalist plays I'd say just keep it. Maybe buy the GC for $350 and resell it to make a profit
Brian
Hopefully the photos are accessible now...?
Pictures are accessable now.
The GC seems in great condition. The Medalist does have the same slate and rails as the GC so playing wise it would be basically the same. It's honestly a toss up if you want to say you have a "GC III" instead of a Medalist and if you're willing to accept that you might have to do work on the GC III to get it to the same point that your Medalist is currently playing at.
Myself, I wouldn't touch a table that played well unless I had to (unless it was to replace it with a Diamond Professional).
Brian
The GC seems in great condition. The Medalist does have the same slate and rails as the GC so playing wise it would be basically the same. It's honestly a toss up if you want to say you have a "GC III" instead of a Medalist and if you're willing to accept that you might have to do work on the GC III to get it to the same point that your Medalist is currently playing at.
Myself, I wouldn't touch a table that played well unless I had to (unless it was to replace it with a Diamond Professional).
Brian
I could not see the photos from the link. However if you have the gold / brass plated castings I can tell you about what I use.
You can buy a "Rust-oleum, American Accents Metallic Leafing Pen" from Home Depot or some similar place. It has a ball bearing in the tip and when you touch it to metal a little gold leaf is released. My table is over 20 years old and has been banged up over time. I have found that this little pen can be used to restore the appearance in a reasonable way. It is not perfect by any means but it covers scratches, chip marks, etc. It is sports equipment and I expect some deterioration from use. I will replace when they get too banged up but for the last 15 years this little touch up pen has worked fine. It probably comes in different colors depending on your needs and is similar to the touch up paint used on cars except that this particular paint has a metalic appearance that is quite similar to the original castings, at least my friends don't notice or comment.
PS, just viewed your photos and yes it appears that your corners are made of a similar metal to my GC III. The pen I bought looks similar to your corners so It is possibly a close match.
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With regard to swapping tables I would think about it. I have a GC III and relined the standard 5.0" pockets to set them at the current industry standard 4.5” pockets. The reline went well and the table is tighter. After using it for some time I am now persuaded that I should have replaced the rails as the professional installers recommend. I like the narrower pockets and they have contributed to making my game better. However, double shimmed pockets have dead points and that is irritating. I suspect that one pocket players would not like the way the table now plays with dead corner points. The next time I redo the table I will replace the rails and this will probably cost $150.00+ added to the cost of new cloth etc.
In my opinion the tighter pockets are very much worthwhile and a GC III would need new rubbers so that would need to be included in your calculations. The dead points affect about 1 in 50 shots.
In my opinion the tighter pockets are very much worthwhile and a GC III would need new rubbers so that would need to be included in your calculations. The dead points affect about 1 in 50 shots.
I dont think its worth it. But I think you need to tell me where the GC3 is 
On a serious note, I used to play in a room that had medalist's, and they played great!
In comparing the two for home use, I think its more on how they are set up than the table itself. You can make either one play great or play bad.
On a serious note, I used to play in a room that had medalist's, and they played great!
In comparing the two for home use, I think its more on how they are set up than the table itself. You can make either one play great or play bad.
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RKM
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Greg,
I also shoot on a Medalist its a great table. I feel if you have it set up level with the cloth you like, there is no reason to change as there won't be much difference. If you have the storage space I would buy it and flip it for a nice profit. I would only change tables if you still have a wet basement problem as the GC's have feet that would hold up better than wood under water!
Jamie
I also shoot on a Medalist its a great table. I feel if you have it set up level with the cloth you like, there is no reason to change as there won't be much difference. If you have the storage space I would buy it and flip it for a nice profit. I would only change tables if you still have a wet basement problem as the GC's have feet that would hold up better than wood under water!
Jamie
Follow-up
I decided to flip the Gold Crown III. Thanks to all who provided input!
I decided to flip the Gold Crown III. Thanks to all who provided input!