Brunswick Tables?

SharpCat

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I was looking at the Artisan pool table from Brunswick. I like the simple deisgn of the table. I was wondering if any of you guys had insights on the quality, playability and price of this line of tables. I would like to get my own table eventually so I can work on my game. I get out wednesday for apa 9-ball and some saturdays for 8-ball. Thanks for any info guys.
 
SharpCat said:
I was looking at the Artisan pool table from Brunswick. I like the simple deisgn of the table. I was wondering if any of you guys had insights on the quality, playability and price of this line of tables. I would like to get my own table eventually so I can work on my game. I get out wednesday for apa 9-ball and some saturdays for 8-ball. Thanks for any info guys.
I never played on the table myself but I do have the Brunswick 2004 catalog.

Artisan 8ft. home with 1" slate is $5249.
Artisan 9ft. with 1" slate is $5749.

Hope this helps ya.
 
very nice table. i have set many up. the only thing i don't like is the fact that the base has to be built upside down then rolled over. the stretcher is very thin, if not rolled over carefully it will snap. but other then that i like the table, to bad they don't have more finish options and wood options
 
wakuljr said:
very nice table. i have set many up. the only thing i don't like is the fact that the base has to be built upside down then rolled over. the stretcher is very thin, if not rolled over carefully it will snap. but other then that i like the table, to bad they don't have more finish options and wood options

Have you ever set up a 9' Brunswick Gibson? I have a new one being delivered and set up on June 16th. I'm having them install Simonis 860 and shimming the pockets to 4.5 inches. Just wondering whether there is anything I should be on the look-out for.
 
Have you considered a used Gold Crown 3 or 4? They are probably better and cheaper than a new "home" model. Plus, that is what most rooms use, so your home table would be more like your room table.
 
iusedtoberich said:
Have you considered a used Gold Crown 3 or 4? They are probably better and cheaper than a new "home" model. Plus, that is what most rooms use, so your home table would be more like your room table.

I came real close to buying a GC IV (love 'em), but since my table is going to be in a very prominent place in my home, I decided to go with a Gibson because it has more of a "furniture" look than the "commercial" look of a GC IV. Price only had a little to do with it. The Gibson is still a pretty pricey table (about $7K). I prefer new rather than used, so that I know there isn't any bad history lurking inside (cracked frame, warped slate, damaged hardware, etc.), and I get a lifetime guarantee with new. Plus, I have an 18-month-old Brunswick Bradford that I was able to trade in. Didn't have to hassle with finding a buyer and paying to have someone tear it down and transport it or to assemble the new one. It's 9', and with Simonis 860 cloth, I think it'll play close enough to the GC IV's in my local pool room. Am wondering, tho, whether there is anything to be on guard about during set-up, i.e. cloth installation or leveling quirks, etc.
 
gwvavases said:
I came real close to buying a GC IV (love 'em), but since my table is going to be in a very prominent place in my home, I decided to go with a Gibson because it has more of a "furniture" look than the "commercial" look of a GC IV. Price only had a little to do with it. The Gibson is still a pretty pricey table (about $7K). I prefer new rather than used, so that I know there isn't any bad history lurking inside (cracked frame, warped slate, damaged hardware, etc.), and I get a lifetime guarantee with new. Plus, I have an 18-month-old Brunswick Bradford that I was able to trade in. Didn't have to hassle with finding a buyer and paying to have someone tear it down and transport it or to assemble the new one. It's 9', and with Simonis 860 cloth, I think it'll play close enough to the GC IV's in my local pool room. Am wondering, tho, whether there is anything to be on guard about during set-up, i.e. cloth installation or leveling quirks, etc.
We haven't got to set up any Gibsons yet, but they look like a great table. It is like the new version of the Anniversary, and I would figure very similar from what pictures of the Gibson I have seen.......just an updateded version.
If your worried about the installer, just watch him while he is setting it up, and you should be able to tell if he knows what he is doing.......or if he is bothered by you watching.
I know that some of the Brunswick Dealers installers around here have no idea what they are doing! They don't use shims.....just screw it all tight and they are done! And I wouldn't imagine they don't square up the rails, if they don't even level it! I would make sure they use the right levels, not just a wood level. You should be able to tell if they are doing it right by watching them. Everybody has their own way of setting up tables...........Some may vary, but the ones that don't know what they are doing should be easy to spot.
 
pooltablemech said:
We haven't got to set up any Gibsons yet, but they look like a great table. It is like the new version of the Anniversary, and I would figure very similar from what pictures of the Gibson I have seen.......just an updateded version.
If your worried about the installer, just watch him while he is setting it up, and you should be able to tell if he knows what he is doing.......or if he is bothered by you watching.
I know that some of the Brunswick Dealers installers around here have no idea what they are doing! They don't use shims.....just screw it all tight and they are done! And I wouldn't imagine they don't square up the rails, if they don't even level it! I would make sure they use the right levels, not just a wood level. You should be able to tell if they are doing it right by watching them. Everybody has their own way of setting up tables...........Some may vary, but the ones that don't know what they are doing should be easy to spot.
I'm planning to make myself a pain in the ass if I'm not confident they're leveling it right, or installing the cloth right. But I'm not sure I'll be able to tell until I have a chance to really play on it afterward. What do I know? I had confidence that the guy that installed the felt on my existing table was doing it right, but I've noticed that the felt is tighter in some places than others, and the cue ball still wobbles here and there as it comes to a stop on some parts of the table. The PTM said it was because the felt needed to get worn in. Hopefully, I won't have that problem with Simonis cloth on my new table. I don't think Simonis has any "break-in" period, does it?

I'm planning to do the pane-of-glass thing to check for level. Supposed to work better than a machinist's level. As I understand it, you take an 8"x8" pane of glass and move it around the table. Put a clean ball on it, and it will roll off if it's not level. Better yet, spin the ball on the glass and see if it drifts. Not sure about the reliability of these techniques (especially the ball-spinning one, which would be more sensitive to table level but also to spinning correctly). Anybody know?
 
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