Thanks Ed!
Bullwinkle
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Thanks Ed!
Thanks Jim!
To get the extra money you have to create perceived value even if it is meaningless in terms of function.
If you take here basic creation and add tooling to it like you do on your cases, then you would have a product that can sell for what ever the market can bare. I am no leather worker but I bet in like 20 minutes you could add $50.00 extra in perceived value to her bridge.
Those are an off the shelf item and not hard to find. I bought from this place some years ago.
http://www.atlanticindia.com/
The diameter isn't so much the issue with the grommets as is the depth. Laminating four layers of 4-5 oz tooling leather is fairly thick...as thick as the Corona bridge is. Makes for a nice, stable bridge.
Just got word that Tiger may be working on something similar...which kinda bums me out. So, I am claiming 'Bullwinkle' for mine here and now!
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Lisa:
Yup, unfortunately it looks like they already have the new products available:
http://tigerproducts.com/store/product.php?productid=16421&cat=248&page=1
http://tigerproducts.com/store/product.php?productid=16488&cat=248&page=1
http://tigerproducts.com/store/product.php?productid=16488&cat=248&page=1
Your Bullwinkle looks (and sounds, name-wise) a lot more interesting, though! :thumbup2:
Additionally, your product is 100% leather, while the above Tiger products look like plastic with a leather or felt liner.
-Sean
Lisa:
Yup, unfortunately it looks like they already have the new products available:
http://tigerproducts.com/store/product.php?productid=16421&cat=248&page=1
http://tigerproducts.com/store/product.php?productid=16488&cat=248&page=1
Your Bullwinkle looks (and sounds, name-wise) a lot more interesting, though! :thumbup2:
Additionally, your product is 100% leather, while the above Tiger products look like plastic with a leather or felt liner.
-Sean
That was my understanding as well...they only have the leather inserts...not full leather like their Corona. I did check their website before doing this, on the off chance I decided to make a 'go' of mine. And since they are not identical...there should not be an issue, hopefully.
I feel bad for Spinali. They failed to patent their original 'moosehead' design before the Asian market went hog wild with them in mass production. Since the Spinali retailed for easily 2-3x the retail of the moosehead imports...they just discontinued making them. Shame too...as the Spinali is a vastly superior product. No injection seams to file down, beveled edges, slightly thicker construction and better plastic. They even notched their grommet hole and grommet to prevent any potential 'free spinning' of the bridge.
I had a few of the Asian imports...every single one snapped in two at some point while attaching to the host cue.
I fully agree. At least here you can see the function clearly. In other areas of leather goods you only get the eye candy and the function you assume should be there is in fact not there. But that's another story.
To me this is simply an expression of how to take a fairly mundane item and make it not only functional but beautiful. You are correct, layers of beauty can be added and that is what people will pay for. Custom, personalized, thoughtful, funky, etc... I would like a blue one... with BANNED tooled in it.
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I would like a blue one... with BANNED tooled in it.
How does that saying go? Don't ban your bridges?
-Sean <-- saying "don't burn your bridges," but with a Bahston accent.
Patenting doesn't mean anything. So you get a patent, now defend it. That's where the money goes.
The other day someone wanted me to sell some GhostBall templates from China. I set up a shot and found that there was a 2mm gap between the balls. Guess the concept of GB contact point was completely lost on the designer.
I fully agree. At least here you can see the function clearly. In other areas of leather goods you only get the eye candy and the function you assume should be there is in fact not there. But that's another story.
To me this is simply an expression of how to take a fairly mundane item and make it not only functional but beautiful. You are correct, layers of beauty can be added and that is what people will pay for. Custom, personalized, thoughtful, funky, etc... I would like a blue one... with BANNED tooled in it.
Lol! Well, haven't actually gotten brave enough to try tooling yet...but I will keep your request in mind!!
Oh...FYI...these are almost indentical in size to the original Spinali bridge heads. These are not oversized, so fit in a case pocket like the originals. They're just thicker in depth.
The other day someone wanted me to sell some GhostBall templates from China. I set up a shot and found that there was a 2mm gap between the balls. Guess the concept of GB contact point was completely lost on the designer.
My thought on that is...if you HAVE to copy something else, do it at least as well, if not better, than the original.
The OP may call it "Bullwinkle" but others may call it "Design Theft" or at very least, "copycat":
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/310709251016?lpid=82
The plastic version has been around forever. I do like a leather version, tho...
Eric
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/310709251016?lpid=82
The plastic version has been around forever. I do like a leather version, tho...
Eric
I have repeatedly given credit on the original 'moosehead' design to Spinali. I simply set out to make a leather version for myself that would be kinder and gentler on my shafts than the import knock-offs which are flimsy and full of mold seams. Mine is every bit a knock-off...the difference being that my knock-off is made entirely of leather. Never made it with the intention to sell.
Actually rather surprised at the response of people who might like one for themselves...still pondering that.
Thank you, I like the leather version too.
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Thanks Dave.