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i have an old adams helmstedder made with a spain forearm.its an o.k. cue but can a cuemaker take it apart and make me a new stick with the burton spain part....
 
lotsastix said:
i have an old adams helmstedder made with a spain forearm.its an o.k. cue but can a cuemaker take it apart and make me a new stick with the burton spain part....
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The short answer is yes, however,
macperson asked a good question.

I would be very surprised if it is a Spain.

Jay - local Adam cue epert - might want to chime in.

Dale
 
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Mcues said:
Picture, please.

Mario
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This is alot to swallow, Helmstetter worked with a few cuemakers in his early days, but not so much while working under the Adams title, if you have any kind of proof it would make it a very interesting cue... metal joint or wood pin in the shaft?

Any markings on the forearm?

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thank you to who answered my question.I see lots of u want pics.if u bear with me about a week or so i would gladly oblige.again i am new to this stuff and need a buddie to take d pics and post them.if i am mistaken please do not beat me up but i think you all will be curiously pleased.thank you again for the info and comments.later.:thumbup:
 
lotsastix said:
thank you to who answered my question.I see lots of u want pics.if u bear with me about a week or so i would gladly oblige.again i am new to this stuff and need a buddie to take d pics and post them.if i am mistaken please do not beat me up but i think you all will be curiously pleased.thank you again for the info and comments.later.:thumbup:
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STILL...how do you know its a SPAIN? not meaning to beat you up, its one of those things that is really unique.. Im a big R helmstetter guy and it has me foaming at the mouth with anticipation of it being true.
 
bnkunderme said:
STILL...how do you know its a SPAIN? not meaning to beat you up, its one of those things that is really unique.. Im a big R helmstetter guy and it has me foaming at the mouth with anticipation of it being true.
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Helmstetter made tens of thousands of cues. Spain made hardly any blanks to speak of really. Certainly not enough to supply any manufacture. His operation (when he did do anything) was tiny.
 
macguy said:
Helmstetter made tens of thousands of cues. Spain made hardly any blanks to speak of really. Certainly not enough to supply any manufacture. His operation (when he did do anything) was tiny.
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Pretty much - Burt made blanks for Bushka and Paradice, maybe Palmer??
Tate might know...

IIUC, he did the first 'reverse points' - maple points into an ebony forearm.

Again, IIUC, Adam was already making their own blanks by this time>

Dale
 
lotsastix said:
i have an old adams helmstedder made with a spain forearm.its an o.k. cue but can a cuemaker take it apart and make me a new stick with the burton spain part....
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You probably don't have. Adam made all of their own blanks. But if you post some pics, I imagine it can be identified. It is about impossible to say what it may or not be otherwise.
 
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