Buyers beware!!

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dimonsterb

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I bought http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=400262 from the seller. Per Vinny's(TattooedKingPin) post that the cue is in like new condition and the shaft is completely straight. I bought(he requested that I send payment as gift) the cue last Thursday 8/20, I got the cue on Monday 8/24. As soon as I opened the tube I could feel that the rings were popped at the joint and the butt. The leather wrap was very poorly put on(gap at the butt end). Then I rolled the shaft and it has a huge tapper roll and when I rolled the butt it had about 5 credit cards off lift. At 1st I thought the lift was from the wrap but after I checked it some more it was not the wrap just the butt was wrapped. I sent him(Vinny) a email because AZB was down and at 1st he told me he would refund me after he got his cue back. Then he sends me a email stating that he had talked it over with his friends and he had good pictures on the post and he wasn't going to refund me and he knows that this wasn't going to end well for him, he also said that he had his local guy check out the cue and it was fine. 1st you can't see tapper roll in pictures or see a wrapped butt in pictures. I took the cue today 8/25 to my local builder/repair man and he confirmed that the cue is wrapped and the shaft has a lot of tapper roll(4mm). He wrote a letter to the fact! This guy is very shady he knows that he sent me a junk cue that's why he wanted me to pay as a gift and because I sent the funds as a gift that Paypal will not force him to give the money back. He keep saying that I had buyers remorse or found something that I like better or money problems, everyone on here that knows me knows I don't have money problems and I never have buyers remorse. If I don't like something I will resell or put it in my storage cases. But I'm an honest seller and I can't use or resell junk! He tried to say I had money problems because I told him my wife would only let me spend 500(that's because I wanted a cheaper cue to take to some of the bars around here). In closing don't trust this guy and if you do don't send as a gift! I'm lucky that I made sure in my Paypal I said what it was for so I can dispute it with my Credit card company!
 
Contact Paypal and explain his action. Is there such a thing as wire fraud or deceptive selling.
 
If you send as a gift then how can you tell paypal you want to dispute a purchase. Sending as a purchase when you purchase is going to give the buyer more support from PayPal.

Sorry to here about your bad purchase experience
 
elvicash said:
If you send as a gift then how can you tell paypal you want to dispute a purchase. Sending as a purchase when you purchase is going to give the buyer more support from PayPal.

Sorry to here about your bad purchase experience
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Thank you! I will never send as a gift on paypal again! I'm just glad that I listed in the gift forum what the transaction was for.
 
Sure there is such a thing as deception, it starts when you agree to scam the system and send something as a gift instead of paying the appropriate fees and getting the coverage that goes with those fees


GoldCrown said:
Contact Paypal and explain his action. Is there such a thing as wire fraud or deceptive selling.
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u12armresl said:
Sure there is such a thing as deception, it starts when you agree to scam the system and send something as a gift instead of paying the appropriate fees and getting the coverage that goes with those fees
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You are right and I will never send a gift paypal payment again! I thought he was a good guy and I was helping him out because he lowered the price down a lil... I'll never be that guy again!
 
elvicash said:
If you send as a gift then how can you tell paypal you want to dispute a purchase. Sending as a purchase when you purchase is going to give the buyer more support from PayPal.

Sorry to here about your bad purchase experience
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You are right! I thought I could trust him. I'll never send a payment like that again!
 
Funny

If you dispute with your credit card and he refuses to refund and accept the cue, you often get to keep the cue and they refund your monies.
 
You never know.

I might also suggest that you contact the owner of this website and ask him to check the member airman20012001, who just happens to be a new member with only 3 posts, conveniently bumping the post in that thread. It may be a double identity.

I would also suggest that you look at the content of his other two posts for reference only.

JoeyA
 
How about checking with the maker?

Hey, according to the signature on the cue, this was built earlier this year. If it does indeed have the major issues you mentioned (rings popped, warped butt, warped shaft) it seems like a reputable builder would be willing to fix them or replace the cue regardless of whether you are the original buyer.

Just a thought.
 
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