CaliRed's recommendation for a ScreenShot Program

[dardusm]

Thanks Cali! Looks like a nice program.

 

[Hungarian]

What in god's holy name are you blathering about???

what does this have to do with Pool?

I get it your kid is a first year programmer and you are trying to drum up downloads for a sales pitch. somewhere down the road

it's weak and .. IT DOESN'T BELONG HERE !!!!!

BUY AN AD!!!!!!

and get someone to make you a modern banner it's not 1995 anymore..

softshot, you are a clown. CaliRed spends time to help people and you say this kind of crap. You should be ashamed to make these kinds of posts. As you know I red repped you for this and I hope others red rep you as well. You are a jerk.

 

[sfleinen]

I have been in the IT field for the past 20 years, pretty much dealing with all areas of it. I love it so much, that I spend a great deal of time working with pc's after work too.:smile: A primary interest of mine has always been experimenting with all the software out there.

I admire your continued enthusiasm for PCs, CaliRed. Unfortunately for me, after 30 years of I.T. (starting on Department of Defense VAXes and PDP-11s, on up to the current day as an Internet backbone and "white hat" security guy working on monstrous Cisco TenGigabit Switch-Routers with terabit backplanes), that "love" for working on all things computered has fizzled out for me.

In fact, I steer clear of identifying myself as a technology person whenever I'm at a party, because I *know* what's coming next -- "oh, you work with computers? You know, I'm having this problem with my computer at home, and perhaps you can come over and fix it for me?" You know, the "free tech support for the privilege of meeting me" thing that people have. Nowadays, I just tell people that I'm the guy that stuffs the Lays potato chip bags, or the guy in the blaze-orange vests that stabs trash with a pole on the side of the NJ Turnpike.

Having said that, I'm going to describe why the posts here may not be 100% glowing endorsements for the product you're advocating. I think you made a couple mistakes, and I'll outline 'em for you. Warning: some of what I'm about to say may not appear to be nice, but it's actually meant constructively -- you'll see at the end.

I would like to recommend a screen shot program for you today. This is for Windows Users only. Sorry, no Mac. There are many screen shot programs out there on the market, both free and paid. There are also programs that are included with your Operating System, such as Paint (which after all these years, finally got a facelift in Windows 7) and new with Windows 7, is the Snipping Tool.

The screen shot programs are either very basic programs that only allow you to do very basic screen shots, or they're so bloated with features that they are difficult to use. I am suggesting Greenshot for several reasons.

[...feature listing deletia...]

We use it over at onepocket.org a lot, because it allowed us to diagram shots from screenshots of matches that were from DVD's or streams. You can open a image file and then draw arrows diagramming your choice of shots, save it, then upload it.

So far, so good. You've done a very good job of "marketing" this little tool that's a favorite of yours. Well done. Actually, your post should've ended here, with a link to get the tool, and methinks you would've served your purpose the best.

It's always been a little odd to me, that when a person suggests a program or a method of doing something a particular way, there are always several people that pipe in with comments, in this case, such as " I just use Paint, works fine for me" As stated above, I know there are many programs and ways of taking a screen shot, the point of this post is to alert you to a program, that if you try, I think you would make it your screen shot program of choice.

Ooops. Hmm... setting up a strawman, that either CaliRed *knows* he'll get to knock over, or else "armor" his post such that anyone that doesn't reply in the absolute positive (i.e. supporting, embracing, and adopting his screenshot tool of choice with we're-not-worthy "thanks" posted here) will be met with, e.g., "gee, here's another person who has reading comprehension problems," or "I told you guys some air-wit was going to do this!"

To support my recommendation, I have taken the time to showcase the features and to give you my reasons of why I think it is a invaluable tool. My recommendation is not to say there aren't other ways or programs that may do generally the same thing or do more or do less. I welcome anyone's feedback on what they use, but in order to contribute a meaningful post, you need to install this program, learn to use it to some extent, and then explain why you think you would rather stick with your original program, then go with this one.:smile:

Good lawd. If that last sentence ain't a loaded trap (especially the part I bolded), I don't know what is. It's like you're saying you want the user to very nearly conduct a "bake-off" before they're even "entitled" to reply to your post. The capper is this: "...then [sic] go with this one" -- if that ain't forced marketing ("you need to convince me why you aren't lemming to my sheep dog"), I don't know what is.

Over the past 2 decades, dealing with users of all different levels of knowledge and comfortability with PC's, from family members to co-workers, to people that have a fair amount of experience, I have found a interesting behavior when it comes to software. It seems that once a person learns how to use a particular program or a specific method of doing something, they become "stuck" with that. They will not even entertain the thought of trying a different program, they just say their current program does the job. These people with closed minds, are really missing out on a lot when it comes to what they could be doing. I've seen people still using programs developed back in the Windows 95 days, just because it's what they got used to and they refuse to even try anything else. One guy sticks out in my mind. He always used Cardfile for his contacts. This was something back in the Windows 3.1 days, but he refused to ever convert it over to the current Contact variations.

<yawn> CaliRed, this is basic I.T. customer service fare. They teach this in level-1 Help Desk schools. It's not just "your" experience that describes this; it's a known fact. And it's not limited to I.T. either. This "fear of the unknown" / "tight-gripped hold on what's familiar and comfortable" extends everywhere in human life. Show me a chef who's not attached to his particular set of knives, or a car mechanic not attached to his set of Snap-On tools, or a calligrapher who doesn't have a certain favorite pen, etc. --- even in the face of something out there that might "be better."

I am constantly scouring all software available, to find the best program for each job at hand and which one would appeal to each group of PC users depending on their needs and knowledge.

This is an admirable cause, and as long as you know something about the users (instead of making generic "follow me, because I know best and said so" assumptions), you'll do well with this.

So in regards to this program, all I ask is that you try it, play around with it a bit, then if you don't like it, just uninstall it:smile: Then come on here and tell us why you don't like it or why you did like it. So try and keep that in mind when you reply.... this thread isn't about what you use for a screen shot program, it's me suggesting a specific program, that I think you would love. Consequently, the only way you can tell me if you don't like it, is to actually install it and play around with it

Here we go again with the "bake-off" and the "follow my lead" lemming stuff. Did you really need to go into this? Or are you *expecting* folks to bite onto this, so that you can reel them in?

A screen shot program to me, [...more feature-listing deletia...]

So if you've made it this far.. [...more feature-listing deletia...]

Dayum, you really, really, REALLY want "everyone" to download and adopt this thing, eh? Something tells me that a large company is about to buy this tool, and you'd like to build-up their customer base so that you'll have first dibs when they go public.

I hope you will give it a try and after doing so, please come back and tell us all what you liked or didn't like about it. It's a great way of diagramming shots, when you would rather use the actual image of the balls on the table, rather then to try to place them accurately on a WEI table.

Cheers !

Now this is a GREAT paragraph! If we take your second paragraph (the one after the "I've been doing I.T. for 20 years" thing), and glue the paragraph above to it (without all the excessive feature listings and cynical entrapment stuff in between), I think you would've had a winner.

I'd like to give this tool a try. But unfortunately, because I do work for huge companies that have very strict desktop PC and mobile device software footprint/download rules (to prevent every Joe and Jane Doe from downloading and installing everything under the sun -- including Trojan horse programs), there's zero chance of me using this tool at work. And at home, I don't use Windows *at all* (I'm a Sun/Oracle Solaris and Linux guy).

I hope this post was helpful, even if it wasn't what you were looking for.
-Sean