can you help me pick my new cloth?

jdxprs

jdxprs

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i have an 8 ft home table, i shoot league and tournies on 7ft and 9ft. the 7ft tables have slow bar cloth, and the 9 ft tables have simonis. for my home table i want something that is somewhere in between so that my stroke speed will be somewhat accurate when going between table sizes.

what kind of cloth falls in the middle?

fwiw, i currently have championship tour edition cloth, and it is about the same speed as simonis.
 
I think going in the middle is the wrong approach. It will wreck both your 7ft and 9ft games as you'll never be playing on either. Plus, the 7ft is slow because it is most likely a napped cloth while Simonis is worsted. There really isn't an inbetween, it's either napped and slow or worsted and fast. I would pick the cloth based on what you prefer to play on at home. Your home cloth will last you years and years, while where you play at what equipment they have will often change.

Brian
 
I'm thinking the 7ft bar tables could be slow because it has a cloth with backing on it. This is used on alot off bar tables for durability I guess, but it can be a slower track !

You could get away with mali unbacked. Or something like that. Prolly be alot cheaper too !

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But you know what ?

You will learn more on a faster table.

More things can happen when the ball rolls more.
Balls stop and you will never know what was gonna happen.

Balls dont go far neither will your game.

Balls go farther so will your game.
 
jdxprs said:
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Ask Johnny Archer -- he'll help you "pick" at it all day long. :p

J/K! Lint-picking funniness aside, I'd go with the posters that are recommending that you cover your table with the same cloth you expect to encounter "in the wild." You didn't mention whether you play league or not, but if you do, you'll want to pick a cloth you "expect to find" in your average playing establishment. It's hard to make a recommendation here, because every area, every place, is different. Some will go with Simonis straight out of the chute, simply because of the perception of being "the best." Others will go with a more durable cloth than Simonis, such as the Milliken product (which has a kind of ScotchGuard treatment applied to it -- causes liquids spilled on it to "bead" instead of soaking in, etc.). Others will go with the Mali product (which is quite good, and yet inexpensive), others will go with the cheapest they can get their hands on. You may even find the occasional table with nap cloth on it -- and that raises its own issues with brushing maintenance to ensure the nap is going in the proper direction, etc.

Only you can answer this. If you play mainly in a pool hall, check out what cloth they use on their tables. I don't go with the idea of "use nap cloth if you want to improve your power stroke," or "go with Simonis because it will improve your 'touch'," etc., because these recommendations also have their downfall. I'd try to get used to the type of cloth that you're most likely to encounter in situations that count (i.e. league or money matches).

Hope this is somewhat helpful,
-Sean
 
Going with a compromise IMO is the wrong choice go for the Simonis it's easier to adapt to something slower than to something thats faster when out playing somewhere else.
 
At the room I go to most I play on 760 and have no problems playing on 860. Something that I've noticed is that it is very easy to move from fast to slow when you are used to fast, but not easy to do the opposite. This is of course just my experience.
 
Personally, I would go with the Simonis 860. I have two tables, and practicing at home on felt is just not fun. I have a 9' Diamond Pro with 860 and a Brunswick Madison Pro-8 with Championship Tournament. I just moved the Brunswick from 860 to Championship 4 weeks ago, and while I love the Championship, I will most likely be going back to Simonis next time.

You will encounter the 860 more, although I think that the Championship makes me work my game harder. Of course, I am not likely to run into Championship at the pool halls, that is why I recommend the 860.

I would recommend against a felt purely since no games on big tables will be played on that kind of surface (rarely, if ever). Bar boxes usually use a thicker, more durable cloth. Of course, you won't want to replicate the beer stains at home either, so you'll never be able to match a bar table properly :)
 
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