Can You Identify This Gold Crown?

Mike the Beginner

Mike the Beginner

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Firstly, thanks to everyone who helped me in the other thread. So far so good! The mechanic arrives on the 11th to put the table together for me. The same father-son team has worked on it before so they're already familiar with this very table. They replaced the cushions and the cloth four years ago.

Meanwhile, can you help me identify as much as might be known about the model, vintage, condition etc.? Is there any way to tell date of manufacture, or whether the table has any parts that weren't original? The table played very nicely at the seller's--I tried it for a while before I bought it. The slates (Brunstone?) is in good condition, mostly clean with a few marks and a little discoloration here and there but no pits or scratches.

I don't know how many pictures I can upload to each post here on AZB, so I will try uploading two posts. There are twelve images in all.

Thanks for any help and any thoughts! I appreciate the expertise around here.

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Thanks for any help! If there's anything else I should take a picture of just let me know.

Mike
 
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ThinSlice said:
Hi Trent,

Doesn’t the GC1 have fiberglass skirts and the epoxied name plate? Looks like a GCII to me.

Also the skirts screw in on the provided pictures. No skirt hangers.


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The table in question is a I. I's and II's had the plastic skirts. II's had bronze feet and ball tray surround along with rosewood stained aprons and pedestals.

Very early I's had the plastic nameplate but they transitioned to the metal name plate early on as the plastic was prone to cracking.

Somewhere along the way, this table was stripped of its original painted finish and stained.
 
ThinSlice said:
Hi Trent,

Doesn’t the GC1 have fiberglass skirts and the epoxied name plate? Looks like a GCII to me.

Also the skirts screw in on the provided pictures. No skirt hangers.


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they simply took them off, stripped the paint stained it, never put them back on and call it a day.... not to mention they stopped using the figure8 nutplates DURING the GC1 production and switched to the floating nutplate. It is a GC1~ the pocket castings are cast aluminum. it is 100% a GC1.

TFT
 
rexus31 said:
Brunstone has a reddish-brown color to it. What you have is definitely slate.
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Good to know, thanks. When I went to see the table I took a flashlight and crawled under it to see what I could see, but I didn't know what I was looking for. I had read someplace that you should check to see that the playfield material looks like slate, and it did. Beyond that I was clueless.

The table played really nicely. Smooth and clean like butter. Balls made a distinctive sound dropping into the pockets. I really liked it. This is my third table (successively, not concurrently--lost the Diamond in 2015) but I've never had a 9-footer at home before.

I read that if you play on bar tables you should practice on bar tables, and we play on bar tables in League. But I just didn't want a bar table at home. I enjoy playing on larger tables much more. I'm really into pool but mostly for enjoyment.
 
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I must have a GC I, then? I assumed it was a GC II because my ball box is cork lined and my ball return rails are vinyl coated (which seem to be touted as "unique features" of GC II's).

But it has an acrylic name plate, aluminum castings, and Monarch Superspeed cushions (yet adjustable floor levelers).

Is mine a "Frankentable" made with parts from GC I and GC II components, or is it a late GC I as Brunswick transitioned into the GC II?

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lgherb said:
I must have a GC I, then? I assumed it was a GC II because my ball box is cork lined and my ball return rails are vinyl coated (which seem to be touted as "unique features" of GC II's).

But it has an acrylic name plate, aluminum castings, and Monarch Superspeed cushions (yet adjustable floor levelers).

Is mine a "Frankentable" made with parts from GC I and GC II components, or is it a late GC I as Brunswick transitioned into the GC II?

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Yours (rails at least) is an early I based on the plastic nameplate that is in very nice condition. I'm not seeing any GCII parts there. What makes you think you have some II parts?
 
rexus31 said:
Yours (rails at least) is an early I based on the plastic nameplate that is in very nice condition. I'm not seeing any GCII parts there. What makes you think you have some II parts?
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The cork lined ball box, adjustable feet, and vinyl coated ball return track were things I had read were GC II characteristics.

I admit total ignorance, however. :cool:

When you say "early I", would you put it as an early 1960s table? (Would be cool if it were built the year I was born.)
 
lgherb said:
The cork lined ball box, adjustable feet, and vinyl coated ball return track were things I had read were GC II characteristics.

I admit total ignorance, however. :cool:

When you say "early I", would you put it as an early 1960s table? (Would be cool if it were built the year I was born.)
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I would say early '60's but the exact date cannot be determined. I's had all the features you described above.
 
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lgherb said:
The cork lined ball box, adjustable feet, and vinyl coated ball return track were things I had read were GC II characteristics.

I admit total ignorance, however. :cool:

When you say "early I", would you put it as an early 1960s table? (Would be cool if it were built the year I was born.)
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My table is a late GCI and has those same attributes, cork, adjustable feet, vinyl. It was purchased from a Brunswick dealer in 1971 for a private residence, I dont know how long it had been in inventory for though so I suppose it could have been a couple years old before purchase. Even still has the plastic rail blinds.
 
I think that I question the skirts. Which would make it a frankentable.


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