Carbon, back to wood...

Bavafongoul said:
Cue makers I have used, my friends and acquaintances at different pool halls and readers of this Forum have come to
know, I am a pain in the ass about maple shafts. They have to be in a specific weight range, taper & diameter to get my
a seal of approval. I’ve tried several CF shafts, but admittedly for short durations which probably wasn’t a fair test. I did
care for any and preferred my original cue shafts built to my specs. Recently, my opinion changed just like it did in 2004
when I discovered how much I preferred flat ivory joints over piloted steel and switched. For years I never gave it any
thought until I played with one for a weekend & that was it for me. The very same thing recently happened with shafts.

I bought a roasted maple shaft (RMS) which is the very same as Kielwood but the cue maker isn’t able to use that
description because of trademark protection. The shaft met my specs or else I wouldn’t have even considered it. Well,
the shaft has exceeded my expectations and if I could, all my cues would have Kielwood shafts. Fortunately, to make
that happen, I simply need 3 Kielwood shafts (radial, 3/8x10 and 3/8x11) so the 6 cues would have a Kielwood shaft.

At the moment, I only have a radial shaft by Cory Barnhart via Martin @Superior Cues. Unfortunately radial is the only version Cory offers so I’m still looking for a cue maker for 2 more shafts but the shafts have to meet my specs and weight is a deal breaker. My shafts are flat faced and Kielwood shafts tend to be lighter after treatment. So finding the heavier weight is harder and of course, taper, length, ferrule size and diameter are factors that come into play. But my Barnhart radial shaft meets my requirements and exceeds my expectations for a wood shaft with low defection. It truly does plays better than any wood shat I’ve tried or presently own including my Scruggs, Prewitt & Owen shafts.

My friend just recently received two Kielwood shafts from Schmelke.I’m impressed with the quality and the price is
absolutely the best around. I would still like to consider other cue makers and Richard Hsu is always recommended.

However, I’m really disinclined to pay that much when I already paid less for one of Cory’s shafts I found plays great.
As I mentioned, the Schmelke shafts seem like a genuine bargain but I’d still like to consider some other makers before
getting 2 more shafts. Both would be Barnhart shafts if I could Cory to make a different thread but not gonna happen.

If you get a Kielwood shaft, try to have it match the specs of your current pool shaft. Don’t spend your money until you
understand what you are now playing with and match the new shaft as close as possible to those specs. Like me, you
may find that hard to that but it is truly worth the effort. I tried light weight Kielwood shafts & did not like any of them.
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You must love to type.
 
maha said:
neither that either.
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literally the point of a low deflection shaft. Wow.

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Bavafongoul said:
Cue makers I have used, my friends and acquaintances at different pool halls and readers of this Forum have come to
know, I am a pain in the ass about maple shafts. They have to be in a specific weight range, taper & diameter to get my
a seal of approval. I’ve tried several CF shafts, but admittedly for short durations which probably wasn’t a fair test. I did
care for any and preferred my original cue shafts built to my specs. Recently, my opinion changed just like it did in 2004
when I discovered how much I preferred flat ivory joints over piloted steel and switched. For years I never gave it any
thought until I played with one for a weekend & that was it for me. The very same thing recently happened with shafts.

I bought a roasted maple shaft (RMS) which is the very same as Kielwood but the cue maker isn’t able to use that
description because of trademark protection. The shaft met my specs or else I wouldn’t have even considered it. Well,
the shaft has exceeded my expectations and if I could, all my cues would have Kielwood shafts. Fortunately, to make
that happen, I simply need 3 Kielwood shafts (radial, 3/8x10 and 3/8x11) so the 6 cues would have a Kielwood shaft.

At the moment, I only have a radial shaft by Cory Barnhart via Martin @Superior Cues. Unfortunately radial is the only version Cory offers so I’m still looking for a cue maker for 2 more shafts but the shafts have to meet my specs and weight is a deal breaker. My shafts are flat faced and Kielwood shafts tend to be lighter after treatment. So finding the heavier weight is harder and of course, taper, length, ferrule size and diameter are factors that come into play. But my Barnhart radial shaft meets my requirements and exceeds my expectations for a wood shaft with low defection. It truly does plays better than any wood shat I’ve tried or presently own including my Scruggs, Prewitt & Owen shafts.

My friend just recently received two Kielwood shafts from Schmelke.I’m impressed with the quality and the price is
absolutely the best around. I would still like to consider other cue makers and Richard Hsu is always recommended.

However, I’m really disinclined to pay that much when I already paid less for one of Cory’s shafts I found plays great.
As I mentioned, the Schmelke shafts seem like a genuine bargain but I’d still like to consider some other makers before
getting 2 more shafts. Both would be Barnhart shafts if I could Cory to make a different thread but not gonna happen.

If you get a Kielwood shaft, try to have it match the specs of your current pool shaft. Don’t spend your money until you
understand what you are now playing with and match the new shaft as close as possible to those specs. Like me, you
may find that hard to that but it is truly worth the effort. I tried light weight Kielwood shafts & did not like any of them.
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It's a simple process to add up to .3 oz to a wood 3/8x10 or radial shaft with a cue lathe if that works for you.
I have done it to McDermott and Jacoby shafts.
 
I think its a feel thing for me. I just prefer wood. Tried Revo, Cuetec, Jacoby CF and have good things to say about all of them except for my own overall performance with them compared to wood. It's a feel thing I suppose. Wood is where I'm staying.
 
Poolmanis said:
it is about 15%. Very noticeable especially on carom table. No difference amount of spin but if your arm is moving same speed as with wood and you get more speed it will create more spin too. That why we feel carbon creates more spin.
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In pool the meaningful measure is spin-to-speed ratio, and that only changes with a different tip/ball contact point.

pj
chgo
 
Paul_#_ said:
Pure X's kielwood shaft comes with a 3/8x10 joint. It is a maple kielwood and carbon-fiber combination.

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Thanks but I think this version is overpriced at $400. IMO,
around $300 is the top price I’d pay for a Kielwood shaft.

Just an example, Schmelke’s version is under $300 &
my Barnhart RMS was approx. $300. Why pay more
when it’s not necessary but I’ll concede there can be
differences in the shaft construction that uses inserts.

For my requirements, I want all wood shafts, original
maple from my cue maker or a Kielwood version but
all wood that weigh min. 3.8 ozs., preferably heavier,
flat faced, big pin, pro taper and 12.75-12.8 mm w/o
any insert. I’ve searched and it’s not easy to find ‘em.
 
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