Carom's Siren Song in Colorado & A Carom Cloth ? - Long Post

fd_colorado

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I went down to Denver last Sunday to play in a small 9-ball tourney. I was about 20 minutes late due to all of the returning weekenders clogging up I-70. So no go on the 9-ball.

The room had one carom table. Now I'm not an accomplished carom player by any means, but I can run 2's a bunch with occasional 3's & rarer 4's. Up until a few months ago I hadn't played 3 cushion for 20 some years. And now I only get to play about once per month when I am in Denver. I was down there for 2 days and never once played regular pool; it just worked out that way. :smile:

The guy I played first was grumbling about the condition of the table and the cloth. He said he was trying to get the owner to recover the table and set it up right. This meant nothing to me because I have never played on a properly set up carom table (until the next day!). Anyway, on this old plank the gentleman ran 6 on me. I told Jerry that in my experience, albeit limited, no one had ever run 6 on me. He said he couldn't see as well as he used to and that back in the day he had more than a few runs of 15.

He also said the best player in Denver was the guy over at the Korean billiards place in Aurora (east Denver). I go into the Korean place and all the carom tables have this bright yellowish green cloth on them. The cloth played like nothing I ever played on (not sure if it was good or bad, just different). The cloth seemed to have a lot of initial skid it and the ball would seem to bounce "funny" off of the rails, esp. the 2nd rail.

I keep hearing rumors of one of the OEM's producing a pool/billiard table with 2 sets of rails. I would be interested in some kind of convertible table, if done right. But what kind of cloth would a guy use? If the yellow/green cloth at the Korean place was indeed the "right stuff" it would seem that it would not be appropriate for a pool table.

My question: If someone eventually makes a quality convertible table, what one kind of cloth would you use for both games? Or would you just succumb to the siren's song, take out the room-stretcher and put in another table dedicated to caroms?
 
I think several of the European companies do make convertible tables. I recall a table (Gabriels?) at the BCA Trade Show a few years ago that had the rails held on by magnets to allow very quick conversion. It seemed to play OK. Chevillotte also makes a convertible table.

Easier to get are "pocket blocks" that add short rail sections inside the pockets. This would not quite satisfy most 15-point runners, but it is a good solution for a tight budget.

As for cloth, I'd try 860 and try to heat it.
 
Sounds like you played w/Jerry Karsh, the former owner of Shakespeare's in Denver and former President of the USBA. He knows a ton about billiards, so next time you play with him have Jerry show you something about the game.

I agree with what Bob said but I would suggest putting Simonis 760 on a table that converts to 3C instead...it's a little faster cloth than 860 so you would enjoy 3C a little more. I think it would be a happy medium for both. Good luck in your search.

Dave
 
Yes, that sounds like the fellow. He did show me some shots whenever I seemed at a loss as to how to play something.
 
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