CBSA - What A Joke !!

[xxxbilliards]

ouch, that hurts

It sounds like a church....too quiet?
Where is all the constructive talk about improving the game? what about the tournaments? where are they?
Will the next person that cares step in? .....we're waiting for action!!
Please, say something.....even ouch!!!
Thanks, point taken.

 

[taxi man]

Now I know where the special came from in special ed!

You want to know where the action is,there is something wrong in your brain.I think you just want to get a reaction from anybody.You don''t deserve to know where the action is or deserve the proper knowledge how to run a event without screwing people over.People are quiet,so what!You think your some great promoter of the game but you are the only one who thinks so.People might not say anything because they''re just sick of the lies ,the fake medical crap and everthing else including the shortage of money!Like I said before some people just want to play pool so they don''t care about antics.If pool improves it might take some time,but if you truly want to see the game improve,you should remove yourself from the scene completely.Do you think that if a tour started people want you running it?Let''s hear honesty.You have drained the scene,what more do you want?If it''s money maybe the players can start a fund to give to you just to stay away from running events.You know deep down what you are in the pool world.Karma is a mother****er.Good luck oh wise one!

 

[xxxbilliards]

You want to know where the action is,there is something wrong in your brain.I think you just want to get a reaction from anybody.You don''t deserve to know where the action is or deserve the proper knowledge how to run a event without screwing people over.People are quiet,so what!You think your some great promoter of the game but you are the only one who thinks so.People might not say anything because they''re just sick of the lies ,the fake medical crap and everthing else including the shortage of money!Like I said before some people just want to play pool so they don''t care about antics.If pool improves it might take some time,but if you truly want to see the game improve,you should remove yourself from the scene completely.Do you think that if a tour started people want you running it?Let''s hear honesty.You have drained the scene,what more do you want?If it''s money maybe the players can start a fund to give to you just to stay away from running events.You know deep down what you are in the pool world.Karma is a mother****er.Good luck oh wise one!

Time will tell, karma your ...

 

[xxxbilliards]

By the way, I'm cruising South America (scoutting) local talent to see where there may be someone capable of coming North to battle as my invitee and see if we can measure some sticks
In the mean time if I find something I will share with you all, perhaps there is another Johnny or Erik, Jason, etc. down here.
Have a nice one again

I'm back from my cruise and sad to report there is no action at all.
Our players here have the upper hand vs. South America, the only real competitors are across the border for now.......looking at travel cost vs. distance. There are a couple of players but will never be able to come

 

[sly]

since there is no world 9 ball championship the canadian 9 ball should have a good turnout,with no money being taken for "trips'' away from the purse.
it baffles me the canadians are held in a billiard club and there is no money added? at best leave all the entry fees in

 

[xxxbilliards]

since there is no world 9 ball championship the canadian 9 ball should have a good turnout,with no money being taken for "trips'' away from the purse.
it baffles me the canadians are held in a billiard club and there is no money added? at best leave all the entry fees in

I second the motion, is a valid one
I'm with you in this one too!!
Lets see what happens later on

Have a good one........going fishing!!

 

[srs314]

since there is no world 9 ball championship the canadian 9 ball should have a good turnout,with no money being taken for "trips'' away from the purse.
it baffles me the canadians are held in a billiard club and there is no money added? at best leave all the entry fees in

The worlds being canceled will make no difference for this years Canadians. The winners would be going to next years and last years winners would have gone to this years.

I do hope as everyone should there is a worlds next year, it's an important part of the game we love!

Seems the money is a concern you have. It is my understanding that you can contact the CBSA and ask for a financial statement if you like. This way you would be able to show that your statement about leaving the prize money in is factual, which I beleive it is not.

I'm not certain how the money is distributed for prizes but I will tell you there is no one that is part of the CBSA that is making money beyond covering expenses as it must be a non profit organization to be a governing body.

By the way there are sponsors, the room adds $10,000

Anyway I hope you will consider my comments. I'm trying not to come across as arguing just giving you another side to the story.

 

[sly]

The worlds being canceled will make no difference for this years Canadians. The winners would be going to next years and last years winners would have gone to this years.

I do hope as everyone should there is a worlds next year, it's an important part of the game we love!

Seems the money is a concern you have. It is my understanding that you can contact the CBSA and ask for a financial statement if you like. This way you would be able to show that your statement about leaving the prize money in is factual, which I beleive it is not.

I'm not certain how the money is distributed for prizes but I will tell you there is no one that is part of the CBSA that is making money beyond covering expenses as it must be a non profit organization to be a governing body.

By the way there are sponsors, the room adds $10,000

Anyway I hope you will consider my comments. I'm trying not to come across as arguing just giving you another side to the story.

thats ok
money is not the concern, when theres 40 players at $400 thats 16thou thats what there should be , if you what to throw in 2 spots to the worlds, even better, is it that hard.
the cabsa should downsize i think they have alot of people for doing 1 tournament a year.those airfares add up year after year.

 

[xxxbilliards]

thats ok
money is not the concern, when theres 40 players at $400 thats 16thou thats what there should be , if you what to throw in 2 spots to the worlds, even better, is it that hard.
the cabsa should downsize i think they have alot of people for doing 1 tournament a year.those airfares add up year after year.

So the money for this years airfare for the players are going to be given to them or cbsa keeps it?
I would like to know that for sure, next years is next year....now is now!!

Re:
Originally Posted by srs314
The worlds being canceled will make no difference for this years Canadians. The winners would be going to next years and last years winners would have gone to this years.

I do hope as everyone should there is a worlds next year, it's an important part of the game we love!

Seems the money is a concern you have. It is my understanding that you can contact the CBSA and ask for a financial statement if you like. This way you would be able to show that your statement about leaving the prize money in is factual, which I beleive it is not.

I'm not certain how the money is distributed for prizes but I will tell you there is no one that is part of the CBSA that is making money beyond covering expenses as it must be a non profit organization to be a governing body.

By the way there are sponsors, the room adds $10,000

Anyway I hope you will consider my comments. I'm trying not to come across as arguing just giving you another side to the story.
Just answsering for cbsa ??

thats ok
money is not the concern, when theres 40 players at $400 thats 16thou thats what there should be , if you what to throw in 2 spots to the worlds, even better, is it that hard.
the cabsa should downsize i think they have alot of people for doing 1 tournament a year.those airfares add up year after year.

 

[xxxbilliards]

thats ok
money is not the concern, when theres 40 players at $400 thats 16thou thats what there should be , if you what to throw in 2 spots to the worlds, even better, is it that hard.
the cabsa should downsize i think they have alot of people for doing 1 tournament a year.those airfares add up year after year.

Besides the point, why do you take the reply instead of cbsa, are you part of cbsa now?

 

[srs314]

thats ok
money is not the concern, when theres 40 players at $400 thats 16thou thats what there should be , if you what to throw in 2 spots to the worlds, even better, is it that hard.
the cabsa should downsize i think they have alot of people for doing 1 tournament a year.those airfares add up year after year.

I understand where you're coming from.\

The problem the CBSA has to deal with is the rules of the World Pool Association which governs all the countries. It is through a WPA that countries get allocated spots for many world events. Without that sanctioning with them no Canadians would have to opportunity to go to the those kind of events.

The WPA has rules like the governing body having to be non profit and they also say you must have representation from each province/state.

This event is what it is due to what is has to work under.

I think your feedback would be more in line with looking for someone to run a Canadian Open much like the US Open.

 

[seether]

if thats the case

If thats the case the CBSA SUCKS.I think if billiards is goin to make it,It should lower its entrey fees and give out more to the players who earned it.

 

[xxxbilliards]

If thats the case the CBSA SUCKS.I think if billiards is goin to make it,It should lower its entrey fees and give out more to the players who earned it.

Regarding this statement:[/B]
By the way there are sponsors, the room adds $10,000

We all know that if a room adds any money that would be "promoted" to get more players, I have "NEVER" seen this done for the cbsa,
have any of you??
Maybe they can say who added the money last year too.....

 

[srs314]

The deal is in the Canadian Pool forum here on AZBilliards I am the moderator.

I am not answering on behalf of the CBSA nor am I part of the CBSA. However I'm addressing concerns that are brought up here.

So if people want to bash them and talk about money issues you can simply contact them and request a financial statement. Without this it is unfair to comment on how it works. Only then can you make a fair comment based on facts and not opinion. You are actually fortunate to be able to request the financial statement becasue many tours will not show you how the money works.

Also if you would like to know if the players awarded World spots by the CBSA or the Canadian 9-Ball tour got money instead I would suggest you contact the CBSA, Jim Wych or the players themselves.

I think if these players did not get awarded the money instead we would hear them kicking and screaming about it so I'm going to assume everything was worked out properly.

 

[srs314]

Regarding this statement:[/B]
By the way there are sponsors, the room adds $10,000

We all know that if a room adds any money that would be "promoted" to get more players, I have "NEVER" seen this done for the cbsa,
have any of you??
Maybe they can say who added the money last year too.....

You can always contact John White at Shooters to see if he added money or not instead of just claiming it wasn't.

It's unfortunate that people come on here and vent based on assumptions and not facts.

I would rather have this discussion with all the facts in front of us about the money, it would save a lot of he says she says.

 

[sly]

The deal is in the Canadian Pool forum here on AZBilliards I am the moderator.

I am not answering on behalf of the CBSA nor am I part of the CBSA. However I'm addressing concerns that are brought up here.

So if people want to bash them and talk about money issues you can simply contact them and request a financial statement. Without this it is unfair to comment on how it works. Only then can you make a fair comment based on facts and not opinion. You are actually fortunate to be able to request the financial statement becasue many tours will not show you how the money works.

Also if you would like to know if the players awarded World spots by the CBSA or the Canadian 9-Ball tour got money instead I would suggest you contact the CBSA, Jim Wych or the players themselves.

I think if these players did not get awarded the money instead we would hear them kicking and screaming about it so I'm going to assume everything was worked out properly.

spoke to martel and he told me he recieved $2300 back,don't seem like much i asked what he thought,he replied pool players have been getting screwed year after year, so he wasn't surprised

 

[srs314]

spoke to martel and he told me he recieved $2300 back,don't seem like much i asked what he thought,he replied pool players have been getting screwed year after year, so he wasn't surprised

Trust me I love the players which is why I do Shooterville.com but they can't complain. CBSA members are making no profit.

There are costs associated with putting this event on, you are more than welcome to request a financial report and pick it appart where you feel they could save money and put it into the field. Make sure these are things you would cut if you ran it under the rules of the WPA.

Not everyone is willing to work for free and if you expect that these people make no money and pay their own travel and hotel to put a tournament like this on then the tournament would not exist. We would have no way to send players to the World Championships and many other tournaments.

Anyway if you have fair concerns or suggestions you should email them to the CBSA.

 

[DelayedJuice]

I played in the Canadian 8 ball championships in 2008 in Toronto. I liked the pool hall and I think everything was run pretty well. I played very well and finished 5/6 next to Francis Crevier. I was beat out by the 2 champions, Felix Beardy and Alain Martel.

I won my spot in a qualifier in Red Deer Alberta ($475). I was sponsored for the qualifier and split a little prize money with my sponsor. After that I pursued sponsors so that I could actually get to the tournament to play. I managed to get my Hotel paid for by my reserve-Ermineskin Tribal Enterprises ($500). My boss was kind enough to sponsor me my flight ($800). To do all of this I got reference letters from my league authorities , and also made my own letters to formally ask for their help for me to represent Alberta at the Nationals.

I am 24 years old and I am a proud father of a 10 month old son. I work hard to support both my son and my wife.

Now if I (full time father/husband/employee) can find the time to seek out resources for sponsorship, and write up letters for help with expenses. I am pretty sure that most of you on here are capable of the same.

I don't mean to bash anybody on this thread. Its just my opinion on this matter.

Although I would be very upset with the prize money if i were a full time pool player. If i had to pay for that whole trip to play in only the 8 ball event it would have cost me $1775 without money to eat and take a cab to the event. I made $400 for 5th-6th place on the national stage.

But then again why would anybody want to play pool to make money?. I play pool because i grew up playing and i love it.

 

[srs314]

Although I would be very upset with the prize money if i were a full time pool player. If i had to pay for that whole trip to play in only the 8 ball event it would have cost me $1775 without money to eat and take a cab to the event. I made $400 for 5th-6th place on the national stage.

But then again why would anybody want to play pool to make money?. I play pool because i grew up playing and i love it.

Well said and to compliment your take on it the Canadian Championship has never been an event that focused on large sums of prize money to the players. It's main objective is to act as the avenue to qualify for the World Championship and many other Major events.

If you are looking for an event that awards large sums of cash it will probably never be the Canadian Championships. Maybe someone will take the initiative to develop a Canadian Open one day.

I always tell people that tournaments are not all designed to be what they want them to be. Guys like Tyler Edey and Alain Montal will travel to the Canadian Championship becuase they are competing to get to the Worlds. This may not be your wish but that is who the event is designed for.

There is room for all kinds of events and people can decide which ones suit them. It is certainly up to you whether you play or not.

 

[DelayedJuice]

I think if anybody wants to play the canadian championships it should be for the prestige of the event, not the money. I went because there was a chance to become a canadian champion and to play in the worlds...not to try and make a small fortune.

I am glad that the CBSA exists and that canada can have representatives in the worlds.