Center Ball Perception

whitewolf said:
Joe Tucker's device can't be as good as the elephant ball. If it is then somebody please explain. Maybe they could be used together!

WW

The elephant ball and all of the other training balls suck. All they help you do is identify that you have a problem. I can tell just by looking at the Third Eye that this device will identify your problem AND correct it.
 
whitewolf said:
Joe Tucker's device sounds good (and cheap), but what I like to use is the elephant balls. Use the one with the bulls eye target and shoot the ball down the table. If it comes back with the chalk mark in the center of the target, then you probably hit the ball straight. However, it is possilbe to hit the mark in the center but the object gets spin imparted to it. You can witness the line going down the center of the elephant ball getting out of line before it hits the opposite rail. This happens if you are not lined up properly. Joe Tucker's device can't be as good as the elephant ball. If it is then somebody please explain. Maybe they could be used together!

WW


"Cheap" is not a good description, and I accidentally used that word to in an earlier post. This device if anything is great value at an inexpensive price. I understand what you are saying about the elephant ball, except I believe the 3rd eye not only gives you an excellent stroke perspective but allows you to self correct. Very valuable.

Another point is that you can play balls on the tables and just go around playing them with the cue ball without any set up criteria. Or just practice stroking at the kitchen table.

Ever get out of stroke and can not figure it out? This is what I like about this device.

Better players.

You know what it feels like when things are going well, and when they aren't you start thinking about your feet, your stance, your grip, your aim, your... until you later figure it out. So when your out of stroke or not feeling comfortable, simply take this device out and start to hit some balls with the cue ball. You now get a really good visual of your stroke. As you straighten your stroke the rest of your body follows by re-aligning itself to that normal "good feeling" form.

Beginner to intermediate

Nothing better than to learn a true straight stroke as nothing is more important. Without this, no sense working on aim 'cause you will not ever be consistent.

I have met Joe once and I am not one to brag about products, but this one makes sense. Certainly a lot more sense than rolling some ball up and down a table to practice hitting the ball straight because that shot never comes up in a game. Not taking away the value of rolling a ball up and down as it is a good way to see if you are on or off, but this does nothing for practice. This device is real world stuff, about time.
 
whitewolf said:
I just tried Joe's website and could not get Quicktime to load. His product sounds really interesting. Sorry, by using the word 'cheap' I didn't mean to devalue his product. It comes with a DVD, so Joe's price is obviously very reasonable and it is apparent that Joe just wants to help pool players.

I apologize for my 'lame' advice, but that is all I had.

WW


I was correcting myself, as I stated "cheap". I thought about I realized it was a bad choice of words on my part.
 
Center ball, i found this to be my problem also a few years back, but what helped me align the cue tip to center ball was this, it may sound a little crazy but bare with me

when you look at something close to you then focus on something behind that object the closer object becomes double vision, i do this when i aim at the cueball, it becomes two cueballs, the very outside edges are not soild but the inner edges are solid, somewhat like a small cueball this helps me aim using Hals small ball hit method. but when i see this i also see two cuetips then i align those with the inner edges perfect directly aiming at center ball. Sounds confusing but this helps me, and i feel comfortable seeing two cueballs, of course i can focus and see just one cueball.
 
Thanks to BadAndy

this is a good technique to see how you head is aligned with the cueball if you wanna try it out.

To make sure you have your head aligned vertically and not crooked you can use a mirror that is at least the size of a sheet of paper. Tape a string vertical, going up and down using a T-square or some other device to make sure the string will be perpendicular to the table, not slanting toward one side or the other.

Set the mirror up on the table. Place the CB a few inches away from it and inline with the string so the string is in the center of the CB. Pretend to shoot the CB into the image on the mirror. After you are lined up and ready to shoot look at your face and cue in the mirror. Is the cue in a straight line with the string? Where does the string intersect you face? Is it straight down the middle? If so you are in a centered aim position, which has a lot of advantages. Is it directly through the middle of the left eye? If so you have true left eye alignment which also has advantages. Is it halfway between the left eye and center of the face? Then you have dominant left eye aiming. None of these aim alignments are wrong but they have their advantages depending on what focus you use along with the aim technique. Also, is your head aligned vertically with the string or is it on a slant. If on a slant it makes aiming more difficult because each eye is seeing a different view and your brain has to make sense out of it. The dominant eye also has disadvantages because one time you may shoot at 80% - 20% then the next time you may be 70% - 30%. The change makes for a different view with respect to parallax and it may look good but is off. It is hard to be consistent with dominant eye. To see what I mean, just aim a shot as normal then without moving shut one eye and look at you aim. It looks different, like it is going to miss. Then shut the other eye and it will look different in the other direction. Your brain figures all this out but if you keep changing alignment its like shooting a gun with the site being changed before you aim.
 
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