Chalk Debris…….Pool Players Should Use Taom Chalk or Equivalent.

Bavafongoul

Bavafongoul

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Some of the readers might have seen my prior posts complementing a local pool room operator in Fresno, Sierra Billiards. If you haven’t read any of my report cards about this pool room, you really should do a search to view a very classy parlor.

The equipment & ambience is just upscale, big screen TVs are everywhere, huge selections of beer & soon hard liquor too. Additionally, the owner offers a monthly and annual memberships. It takes a lot of hard work to keep Sierra Billiards tip top.

For folks with home tables, if you aren’t using a high quality chalk, like Taom, Predator, Blue Diamond or any equivalent, you can expect that this is happening and brushing the table every day does not prevent this from taking place, i. e., chalk debris.

For the last 4 months, every 2-3 weeks all the tables get cleaned using a rainbow vacuum and it does make a big difference. Attached are some short video clips taken yesterday; all of the tables were cleaned a month earlier. See how fast this happens.

When was the last time your pool room cleaned the pool tables to actually remove the chalk buildup that inevitably happens. And Masters Chalk and all the other less expensive chalk are the cause and the way pool players misapply chalk is the reason.

Stop turning, twisting and coring your pool chalk. The chalk wears down more evenly when brushed on the cue’s tip. But it also creates less debris and mess. What you see is when the tables are cleaned regularly. The 1st time it was scary.

The first cleaning was 4-5 months ago. The vacuum effluent was thick, splashed in the sink like it was gravy and very dark. I dread to imagine what it would be like after a year. You can see the results even with scheduled cleaning of the tables.

Every wonder why pool balls seem to roll different on some tables? There are a host of reasons but the one that does not pop
into mind first is dirty cloth. You can brush the table daily. Some surface dirt is removed but a lot gets embedded and remains.
 

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Bob,

I’ve played at pool rooms rooms where tables are vacuumed with Dirt Devils and brushed daily.
The cleaning is only as good as the operator and also the equipment. Nonetheless, when the
Rainbow vacuum was used on those same tables, the room operator, and a bunch of us, were
astonished at how much chalk was removed. The waste effluent was still pretty disgusting.

Matt
 
Bavafongoul said:
Some of the readers might have seen my prior posts complementing a local pool room operator in Fresno, Sierra Billiards. If you haven’t read any of my report cards about this pool room, you really should do a search to view a very classy parlor.

The equipment & ambience is just upscale, big screen TVs are everywhere, huge selections of beer & soon hard liquor too. Additionally, the owner offers a monthly and annual memberships. It takes a lot of hard work to keep Sierra Billiards tip top.

For folks with home tables, if you aren’t using a high quality chalk, like Taom, Predator, Blue Diamond or any equivalent, you can expect that this is happening and brushing the table every day does not prevent this from taking place, i. e., chalk debris.

For the last 4 months, every 2-3 weeks all the tables get cleaned using a rainbow vacuum and it does make a big difference. Attached are some short video clips taken yesterday; all of the tables were cleaned a month earlier. See how fast this happens.

When was the last time your pool room cleaned the pool tables to actually remove the chalk buildup that inevitably happens. And Masters Chalk and all the other less expensive chalk are the cause and the way pool players misapply chalk is the reason.

Stop turning, twisting and coring your pool chalk. The chalk wears down more evenly when brushed on the cue’s tip. But it also creates less debris and mess. What you see is when the tables are cleaned regularly. The 1st time it was scary.

The first cleaning was 4-5 months ago. The vacuum effluent was thick, splashed in the sink like it was gravy and very dark. I dread to imagine what it would be like after a year. You can see the results even with scheduled cleaning of the tables.

Every wonder why pool balls seem to roll different on some tables? There are a host of reasons but the one that does not pop
into mind first is dirty cloth. You can brush the table daily. Some surface dirt is removed but a lot gets embedded and remains.
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Couldn't agree more, I play at home with Taom, after hours of play theres no chalk on my hands or the rails, my GCIII stays immaculate, it's no bs. Problem is not much people care/or not there problem.
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Bavafongoul said:
Some of the readers might have seen my prior posts complementing a local pool room operator in Fresno, Sierra Billiards. If you haven’t read any of my report cards about this pool room, you really should do a search to view a very classy parlor.

The equipment & ambience is just upscale, big screen TVs are everywhere, huge selections of beer & soon hard liquor too. Additionally, the owner offers a monthly and annual memberships. It takes a lot of hard work to keep Sierra Billiards tip top.

For folks with home tables, if you aren’t using a high quality chalk, like Taom, Predator, Blue Diamond or any equivalent, you can expect that this is happening and brushing the table every day does not prevent this from taking place, i. e., chalk debris.

For the last 4 months, every 2-3 weeks all the tables get cleaned using a rainbow vacuum and it does make a big difference. Attached are some short video clips taken yesterday; all of the tables were cleaned a month earlier. See how fast this happens.

When was the last time your pool room cleaned the pool tables to actually remove the chalk buildup that inevitably happens. And Masters Chalk and all the other less expensive chalk are the cause and the way pool players misapply chalk is the reason.

Stop turning, twisting and coring your pool chalk. The chalk wears down more evenly when brushed on the cue’s tip. But it also creates less debris and mess. What you see is when the tables are cleaned regularly. The 1st time it was scary.

The first cleaning was 4-5 months ago. The vacuum effluent was thick, splashed in the sink like it was gravy and very dark. I dread to imagine what it would be like after a year. You can see the results even with scheduled cleaning of the tables.

Every wonder why pool balls seem to roll different on some tables? There are a host of reasons but the one that does not pop
into mind first is dirty cloth. You can brush the table daily. Some surface dirt is removed but a lot gets embedded and remains.
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Vacuuming every two or three weeks is a poor performance for any decent poolroom.

Scared to ask how often they clean/polish the balls.

Lou Figueroa
 
The pool balls are cleaned every single day and often twice, like when a tournament is held. Sierra Billiards purchased a Diamond dual 16 Ball polisher when they installed 15 new Diamond tables with Predator lights. The pool table rails are cleaned thru out the day and the chalk is discarded when it is unacceptable. The only thing missing, which is more of my preference, is a 10’ Snooker table (12’ would be too big) or a Billiards table. The bathrooms are brand new, are fastidiously maintained & regularly checked thruout the day. The attention to the pool equipment is top notch and there is very little to criticize as a pool room, aside from the tables I wish were included. Sierra Billiards legitimately rates a 9 out of 10.
 
Bavafongoul said:
The pool balls are cleaned every single day and often twice, like when a tournament is held. Sierra Billiards purchased a Diamond dual 16 Ball polisher when they installed 15 new Diamond tables with Predator lights. The pool table rails are cleaned thru out the day and the chalk is discarded when it is unacceptable. The only thing missing, which is more of my preference, is a 10’ Snooker table (12’ would be too big) or a Billiards table. The bathrooms are brand new, are fastidiously maintained & regularly checked thruout the day. The attention to the pool equipment is top notch and there is very little to criticize as a pool room, aside from the tables I wish were included. Sierra Billiards legitimately rates a 9 out of 10.
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Welllllll, OK then.

Lou Figueroa
but tell them to break out
the vacuum a bit more
 
Maybe he doesn’t know or meant they vacuumed the tables every 2-3 days and used a rainbow carpet cleaner every 2-3 weeks. You’ll have to ask Leland to get to the bottom of it tho. Lol

Taom at home for sure. I use whatever’s on the rail when I play out, everything’s covered in master blaster anyway.


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Bavafongoul said:
Some of the readers might have seen my prior posts complementing a local pool room operator in Fresno, Sierra Billiards. If you haven’t read any of my report cards about this pool room, you really should do a search to view a very classy parlor.

The equipment & ambience is just upscale, big screen TVs are everywhere, huge selections of beer & soon hard liquor too. Additionally, the owner offers a monthly and annual memberships. It takes a lot of hard work to keep Sierra Billiards tip top.

For folks with home tables, if you aren’t using a high quality chalk, like Taom, Predator, Blue Diamond or any equivalent, you can expect that this is happening and brushing the table every day does not prevent this from taking place, i. e., chalk debris.

For the last 4 months, every 2-3 weeks all the tables get cleaned using a rainbow vacuum and it does make a big difference. Attached are some short video clips taken yesterday; all of the tables were cleaned a month earlier. See how fast this happens.

When was the last time your pool room cleaned the pool tables to actually remove the chalk buildup that inevitably happens. And Masters Chalk and all the other less expensive chalk are the cause and the way pool players misapply chalk is the reason.

Stop turning, twisting and coring your pool chalk. The chalk wears down more evenly when brushed on the cue’s tip. But it also creates less debris and mess. What you see is when the tables are cleaned regularly. The 1st time it was scary.

The first cleaning was 4-5 months ago. The vacuum effluent was thick, splashed in the sink like it was gravy and very dark. I dread to imagine what it would be like after a year. You can see the results even with scheduled cleaning of the tables.

Every wonder why pool balls seem to roll different on some tables? There are a host of reasons but the one that does not pop
into mind first is dirty cloth. You can brush the table daily. Some surface dirt is removed but a lot gets embedded and remains.
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Do you know what attachment they used with the vacuum?
 
RandyinHawaii said:
Do you know what attachment they used with the vacuum?
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I’ll ask my friend what attachments he uses. The effluent was from only cleaning eight 9’ tables.
Next week he’ll clean the seven 7’ Diamond tables, take a few days off, and repeat the process.
 
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jeagle64 said:
Maybe he doesn’t know or meant they vacuumed the tables every 2-3 days and used a rainbow carpet cleaner every 2-3 weeks. You’ll have to ask Leland to get to the bottom of it tho. Lol

Taom at home for sure. I use whatever’s on the rail when I play out, everything’s covered in master blaster anyway.


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The rainbow vacuuming is performed by my friend. I play pool at his house every week. Both of use are members
at Sierra Billiards. He does this every 2 weeks but in between his thorough cleaning of the tables, the staff inspects
the tables daily, clean the cloth using a Dirt Devil if and where needed, of course, directional brushing of the cloth,
as well as polishing the rails and every set of balls is cleaned every day or more often when returned sets look dirty.
The chalk effluent was from just cleaning only the eight 9’ tables after one week of play. Imagine if this wasn’t done?
 
Bavafongoul said:
For folks with home tables, if you aren’t using a high quality chalk, like Taom, Predator, Blue Diamond or any equivalent, you can expect that this is happening and brushing the table every day does not prevent this from taking place, i. e., chalk debris.
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Blue Diamond is just as messy as masters chalk and predator causes more skids in my opinion. Taom seems reasonable, but no way am I spend that much on a piece a chalk, since it's not going to do anything for my game.

Debris is a big problem however, I vacuum my table once a week, and it's surprising how much blue dust comes out! Gotta clean the balls every other day, otherwise they become gritty.
 
I disagree about Blue Diamond. I used it for about 8 years and not a single cube out of the 25 box carton I bought on
eBay ever disappointed, made a mess, flaked ot left a chalk mark on my hands but then again, I chalk correctly, not
implying that you do not. I am merely reciting my first hand experience. There are several threads and many posts on this Forum attesting to my opinion and testimonials about Blue Diamond. I would still be using it were it not for the fact
a friend gave me a cube of V10 as a gift and I tried it. Son of a gun, all the hype about its superiority in cleanliness is
true and it might last longer too and I always chalked after every shot until I started using V10. Now I chalk every other
shot and probably could chalk less often but for over 60 years I’ve chalked every shot so old habits are hard to change.
Anyway, I’d use Blue Diamond again and still carry it in my cue case. I have so much chalk I never need to buy again.
 
I called my buddy and he uses the Rainbow upholstery attachment for the slate bed and there also a circular bristle brush for the rails. These are the standard attachments that came with the Rainbow vacuum. The water chamber traps the chalk dust, dirt and debris removed by the vacuum much better than any other vacuum filter performs. You can see the water change from clear to disgustingly discolored from the chalk removed. It’s shocking how much gets removed. Another pool player at Sierra asked me what do they use to get the tables so clean. I replied lots of attention and the right cleaning equipment. Brushing a table only removes surface particles but it also pushes the chalk deeper into the cloth at the same time. Keep in mind airborne particles from brushing don’t just disappear but will resettle on the cloth. The best to keep your pool table cloth clean is to remove the dust & dirt; Rainbow vacuums appear to do a terrific job. Sierra Billiards strives hard to be the best.
 
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Bavafongoul said:
I called my buddy and he uses the Rainbow upholstery attachment for the slate bed and there also a circular bristle brush for the rails. These are the standard attachments that came with the Rainbow vacuum. The water chamber traps the chalk dust, dirt and debris removed by the vacuum much better than any other vacuum filter performs. You can see the water change from clear to disgustingly discolored from the chalk removed. It’s shocking how much gets removed. Another pool player at Sierra asked me what do they use to get the tables so clean. I replied lots of attention and the right cleaning equipment. Brushing a table only removes surface particles but it also pushes the chalk deeper into the cloth at the same time. Keep in mind airborne particles from brushing don’t just disappear but will resettle on the cloth. The best to keep your pool table cloth clean is to remove the dust & dirt; Rainbow vacuums appear to do a terrific job. Sierra Billiards strives hard to be the best.
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Thanks for finding out.
 
The place my league is at goes way to long on cloth changes. The balls are toast and have been for as long as I have started playing there. They also don't use good balls several grams lighter than tournament spec. My diamond plays way differently than the ones I play on in league I wish they would take better care of these things. I don't care if my dues go up. I want to play on top shelf equipment.
 
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