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mnShooter

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I was thinking about getting some of this stuff to clean my pool table. I go to the website http://www.pooltablecleaner.com/ and its over $50 just for the starter kit:eek: . After that it is like $13 a can. That seems a little steep to me.

Anybody actually use this stuff? How many cleanings do you get per can? Is there an alternative such as using a mist of water instead?

At that price it looks like I'd be spending more on cleaner than I do on cloth since I clean my table almost every day. Right now I just use a damp cloth but it still seems to stretch the fabric out.
 
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mnShooter said:
I was thinking about getting some of this stuff to clean my pool table. I go to the website http://www.pooltablecleaner.com/ and its over $50 just for the starter kit:eek: . After that it is like $13 a can. That seems a little steep to me.

Anybody actually use this stuff? How many cleanings do you get per can? Is there an alternative such as using a mist of water instead?

At that price it looks like I'd be spending more on cleaner than I do on cloth since I clean my table almost every day. Right now I just use a damp cloth but it still seems to stretch the fabric out.
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Years ago, there used to be this vinyl record cleaning system, with little jars of special formula anti-static cleaner that cost like $4 each. They were distilled water.

Hard to see how this system is better than a vacuum cleaner? Let us know if you try it. And, hey, if you really like it though, you can buy a case of cans for $89 (about $7.50 ea).
 
We sell the original product that the Chalk Off is ripped off from. http://www.cuesight.com/dhqc1c.html This is David Hodges Quick-Clean and you can get all the info you need at the website listed above. Our price is $10.99 a can. It is my personal experience that you can get about 20 cleanings out of one can using it liberally. It doesn't take very much to clean the table.

John
www.cuesight.com
 
Does Quick-Clean remove other kinds of stains? Believe it or not, I've got a number of little mouse piss marks on my new Simonis.:o
 
Blue Coral Dri-Clean Upholstery Cleaner does a great job on pool cloth. You can buy it at just about any auto supply store for just $4 (and change) for 22.8 oz. While there, pick up a pack of microfiber cleaning cloths for around $3, and you're good to go.

Spray the Blue Coral Dri Clean onto the table just as you would the Quick-Clean or Chalk-Off, then use a microfiber cloth to wipe in one direction along the entire length of the table.

As an added bonus, the Dri-Clean will remove unpleasant odors such as tobacco smoke from the cloth (and linen wraps on cues as well). Note: DO NOT USE THE PLASTIC SCRUB BRISTLES THAT ARE BUILT INTO THE CAN TO SCRUB THE TABLE CLOTH.
 
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Travis Bickle said:
Does Quick-Clean remove other kinds of stains? Believe it or not, I've got a number of little mouse piss marks on my new Simonis.:o
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Yes, I am sure that it will remove the stains for you. When you get your cleaner Give me a call and I will help you through it. 866 240-2789

David
 
Secaucus Fats said:
Blue Coral Dri-Clean Upholstery Cleaner does a great job on pool cloth. You can buy it at just about any auto supply store for just $4 (and change) for 22.8 oz. While there, pick up a pack of microfiber cleaning cloths for around $3, and you're good to go.

Spray the Blue Coral Dri Clean onto the table just as you would the Quick-Clean or Chalk-Off, then use a microfiber cloth to wipe in one direction along the entire length of the table.

As an added bonus, the Dri-Clean will remove unpleasant odors such as tobacco smoke from the cloth (and linen wraps on cues as well). Note: DO NOT USE THE PLASTIC SCRUB BRISTLES THAT ARE BUILT INTO THE CAN TO SCRUB THE TABLE CLOTH.
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I hope this helps.

We looked at Blue Coral because we were interested to see if this was a good market to get into. The results were that it worked well but left too much residue on the cloth. If you use it enough times the cloth will slow and you really need to vacuum afterwards. Vacuuming will pick it all up but you are defeating the purpose of the ease of use. (How often do you really need to clean a table except to pick up chalk powder? ) Keep in mind that the chemicals that cause the foam do not evaporate and Blue Coral leaves quite a bit left behind. Nothing wrong, just vacuum it.
 
Thanks for the quick response, David, and the Blue Coral idea, Mr. C-caucus. If the Quick-Clean doesn't do it, I'll try the Blue Coral. Nice to have some hope. Thought I might just have to live with it ... a lot of small specks that don't seem to affect play but are a bummer on fresh cloth. Too bad moth season's coming!
 
Thanks David, You got it here really quick. Not that easy living in Louisiana after the storm. It really is a great product. It also took out a stain I just got on my new simonis. I just let the mist stay at that area for a split second longer. I know you dont recomend it, but it worked. I'll be buying it by the case from now on.

Thanks,
Steve
 
Do Not Use Blue Coral

I tried the blue coral stuff. My cloth stretched out like 6 inches each way. I had ripples like an inch tall. It was crazy. I've never seen anything like it. I would not recommend this product to anyone. At least not for a pool table.

After it dried for a few hours it tightened back up but there were still a few small ripples left by the pockets.

Is there any way to shrink the cloth? I can restretch the bed part but my rails have ripples in them that I would like to get rid of. (They were there before the blue coral). Would an iron or hair drier work to steam it.
 
mnShooter said:
I tried the blue coral stuff. My cloth stretched out like 6 inches each way. I had ripples like an inch tall. It was crazy. I've never seen anything like it. I would not recommend this product to anyone. At least not for a pool table.

After it dried for a few hours it tightened back up but there were still a few small ripples left by the pockets.

Is there any way to shrink the cloth? I can restretch the bed part but my rails have ripples in them that I would like to get rid of. (They were there before the blue coral). Would an iron or hair drier work to steam it.
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If I remember correctly, this is a water based product. This also means slower dry time. If you rub hard with any wet product it will cause it to stretch somewhat. I would stay away from water based and flammable materials (cheap is flammable, new wave chemistry = non-flammable / ozone safe, think environment).

The company that does our lab work has been working on a cleaner that will not leave any residue and is not flammable. The problem is that if it foams, there is residue (dandruff) that embeds into the cloth.

I would guess that you might be stuck with some very small ripples, this depends on the amount of polyester/nylon in the cloth.
 
Well I've got tour edition cloth. I'm not sure how much polyster/nylon is in that.

It didn't stretch from the rubbing. As soon as I sprayed the blue on the ripples appeared immediately. You could see the cloth relaxing. I guess I'll either have to stick with the vacuum or spend the money on real pool table cleaner.
 
mnShooter said:
Well I've got tour edition cloth. I'm not sure how much polyster/nylon is in that.

It didn't stretch from the rubbing. As soon as I sprayed the blue on the ripples appeared immediately. You could see the cloth relaxing. I guess I'll either have to stick with the vacuum or spend the money on real pool table cleaner.
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I agree and there is nothing that works better than a vacuum. Some one need to develop a super light weight one with a wide attachment and low sucking power.
 
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pete lafond said:
I agree and there is nothing that works better than a vacuum. Some one need to develop a super light weight one with a wide attachment and low sucking power.
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I disagree Pete. Vacumning is a neccessary first step, but by itself will never get it as clean as following it with a wipedown with a damp t-shirt (preferably an old one;)). I use Quick-Clean on a regular basis, maybe after ever use or couple of uses depending upon how long that use is. It does a very good job. Then once a month or so I get out the vacumn, old t-shirt, and bucket of clean luke warm water (NO SOAP). The quick clean is just much, much quicker and does very near as good a job. As a matter of fact I think Quick-Clean does a better job than vacumning alone.
Steve.
 
catscradle said:
I disagree Pete. Vacumning is a neccessary first step, but by itself will never get it as clean as following it with a wipedown with a damp t-shirt (preferably an old one;)). I use Quick-Clean on a regular basis, maybe after ever use or couple of uses depending upon how long that use is. It does a very good job. Then once a month or so I get out the vacumn, old t-shirt, and bucket of clean luke warm water (NO SOAP). The quick clean is just much, much quicker and does very near as good a job. As a matter of fact I think Quick-Clean does a better job than vacumning alone.
Steve.
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Your right about that. If the table has grime on it from just hand oils, waxes and such, you need more than a vacuum. Using an upholstery cleaner (not water based) is a good choice in this case, but the reality is that the chemicals that create the foam do not dissipate into the air. They just do not, so you need to vacuum it up.

As you stated, you mix it up pretty good and it sounds ideal the way you expalined it.

I picked up a micro fiber cloth that has a super shag. It works very well. I actually use it without anything on the felt. (for those that may be interested. The micro fiber cloth generates a positive charge while dirt, chalk and dust have a negative charge. The opposite attraction is what makes things work.)

As msshooter said, he used Blue Coral and got bad results. The key is to stay away from water based cleaners and read the label to be sure it is good on wools (Quick-Clean solved this).

Thanks.
 
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mnShooter said:
I tried the blue coral stuff. My cloth stretched out like 6 inches each way. I had ripples like an inch tall. It was crazy. I've never seen anything like it. I would not recommend this product to anyone. At least not for a pool table.

After it dried for a few hours it tightened back up but there were still a few small ripples left by the pockets.

Is there any way to shrink the cloth? I can restretch the bed part but my rails have ripples in them that I would like to get rid of. (They were there before the blue coral). Would an iron or hair drier work to steam it.
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Wow that's strange! I have never had any problems using Blue Coral Dri-Clean on Simonis. One of the local pool halls uses it, as do a few of my friends with home tables and they have never had a problem either.

How did you apply the product to the cloth? I spray two one second bursts for a barbox, or three one second bursts for a 9 ft table, into the air above the pool table bed so that it comes down onto the cloth as a mist and then I immediately wipe it down with a microfiber cloth. The cloth is clean and dry in roughly 30 seconds after I finish wiping it down. This, by the way, is exactly the same way you would apply Chalk-Off and/or Quick Clean.

Sounds to me like you sprayed the stuff directly onto the cloth and used so much that you saturated the cloth. That is the only way that it could possibly have gotten so soaked that it would take hours to dry. Either that or you used some other Blue Coral product and not the Dri-Clean (it's called Dri-Clean because it dries darn near instantly).

In any case I stand by my recommendation: Blue Coral Dri-Clean (when used properly) cleans just as well or better than Chalk-Off or Quick Clean at 1/3 of the cost.
 
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