Challenging people when you dont agree with them

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nsainfreek

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What’s with people on this forum always calling others out to gamble when they disagree with something the other person said? I really don’t get it. Some guy posts an opinion or thought and someone chimes in and says it’s wrong and to prove it come play me for $5k. If you don’t have the balls to play me then you’re obviously wrong and I am right. I just don’t get how this proves anything except for the fact that you have a testosterone issue and the only proof of logic is gambling. It just seems so immature and juvenile. And when the other person obviously shows no interest in gambling the jerk just keeps trying to goad the them on, pressing the point that the only reason you won’t gamble with me is because I’m right. Some people don’t gamble. Some people don’t want to go out of their way to play someone they don’t know just to show this stranger that their wrong. Some people struggle to make a living and just because they believe they are right doesn’t mean they’re going to risk their family’s food and shelter to prove a point.

I usually roam these forums just trying to pick up new information but every time I see this happen I just roll my eyes and try to ignore the rest of the thread because I know where it’s headed. It becomes a pissing contest. No class or civility in discussion. Just temperamental people. That’s my rant.
 
On car boards it's always about whose car is quickest...just the nature of man, I guess.
 
nsainfreek said:
What’s with people on this forum always calling others out to gamble when they disagree with something the other person said? I really don’t get it. Some guy posts an opinion or thought and someone chimes in and says it’s wrong and to prove it come play me for $5k. If you don’t have the balls to play me then you’re obviously wrong and I am right. I just don’t get how this proves anything except for the fact that you have a testosterone issue and the only proof of logic is gambling. It just seems so immature and juvenile. And when the other person obviously shows no interest in gambling the jerk just keeps trying to goad the them on, pressing the point that the only reason you won’t gamble with me is because I’m right. Some people don’t gamble. Some people don’t want to go out of their way to play someone they don’t know just to show this stranger that their wrong. Some people struggle to make a living and just because they believe they are right doesn’t mean they’re going to risk their family’s food and shelter to prove a point.

I usually roam these forums just trying to pick up new information but every time I see this happen I just roll my eyes and try to ignore the rest of the thread because I know where it’s headed. It becomes a pissing contest. No class or civility in discussion. Just temperamental people. That’s my rant.
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+1. Seems like people lacking an intelligent response can only throw down a dare.
 
if you were a gambler, you would understand.


Welcome to the forums. i am curious to see how this thread develops.
 
Hey! Just a thought for a TV reality show..kinda like pool, poker, and pain...only it would involve pool, road race course, and drag strip.

(Just kidding, folks!)
 
What?

nsainfreek said:
What’s with people on this forum always calling others out to gamble when they disagree with something the other person said? I really don’t get it. Some guy posts an opinion or thought and someone chimes in and says it’s wrong and to prove it come play me for $5k. If you don’t have the balls to play me then you’re obviously wrong and I am right. I just don’t get how this proves anything except for the fact that you have a testosterone issue and the only proof of logic is gambling. It just seems so immature and juvenile. And when the other person obviously shows no interest in gambling the jerk just keeps trying to goad the them on, pressing the point that the only reason you won’t gamble with me is because I’m right. Some people don’t gamble. Some people don’t want to go out of their way to play someone they don’t know just to show this stranger that their wrong. Some people struggle to make a living and just because they believe they are right doesn’t mean they’re going to risk their family’s food and shelter to prove a point

I usually roam these forums just trying to pick up new information but every time I see this happen I just roll my eyes and try to ignore the rest of the thread because I know where it’s headed. It becomes a pissing contest. No class or civility in discussion. Just temperamental people. That’s my rant.
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I don't agree with anything you said. You wanna play sum!

JK- not bad for your sixth post.
 
I've noticed it too. In theory, John Schmidt and Donnie Mills should never ever be wrong. Who here can beat them??
 
stunshotDAVE said:
if you were a gambler, you would understand.


Welcome to the forums. i am curious to see how this thread develops.
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Thanks for the welcome. I use to gamble pool a lot but stopped playing because life got hectic. I still don't understand that mentality. I gamble to try and improve my game,focus, and for the adrenaline rush, not to prove someone wrong.
 
nsainfreek said:
Thanks for the welcome. I use to gamble pool a lot but stopped playing because life got hectic. I still don't understand that mentality. I gamble to try and improve my game,focus, and for the adrenaline rush, not to prove someone wrong.
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welcome to az. you have made a valid point. seems like there has been a lot of those type posts lately. i come on here mostly to learn all i can about pool, not to get into arguements. i do give my opinion when a post rubs me the wrong way tho. but thats all it is just an opinion, im not going to call some body out because i dont agree with them.
 
A few years back, the New England Journel of Medicne published a report on the behavior in some males referred to as "One upmanship". The behavior you described was listed as one in a group of behaviors that would fall into this catergory.

Upon further studies, a sub catergory was created just specfic for the behavior you posted about. This behavior is now referred to as SDS, Small Dick Syndrome.

Need I say more.
 
nsainfreek said:
Thanks for the welcome. I use to gamble pool a lot but stopped playing because life got hectic. I still don't understand that mentality. I gamble to try and improve my game,focus, and for the adrenaline rush, not to prove someone wrong.
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I believe your honesty. I used to work in the gambling business at a race track. I'll never forget one of the track accountants remind me that I was not in the horse business - I was in the gambling business. I personally watched a public school bus driver churn over $300,000 through our windows in the course of one year (the attitude toward his revenue source was "don't ask, don't tell"). Fella rarely walked out with a dime. I'll never forget watching from the window after he hit a decent score. I could hear him screaming from deep within the bowels of the racetrack (I was in the basement and he was on the mezzanine level - third floor). I took the money up to the teller to pay him off - almost $17k. He was ecstatic and could not contain his joy! I asked my teller how he was doing for the night. Turns out he was still stuck $500 or so - after cashing that ticket.

I learned a lot at that racetrack in my 4 years there. That gambler, by the way, was a pretty good guy overall, despite losing his wife's house, car, and everything else. Man, he tipped good when he hit. Pretty smart too. Just couldn't control his compulsion...
 
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A few years back, the New England Journel of Medicne published a report on the behavior in some males referred to as "One upmanship". The behavior you described was listed as one in a group of behaviors that would fall into this catergory.

Upon further studies, a sub catergory was created just specfic for the behavior you posted about. This behavior is now referred to as SDS, Small Dick Syndrome.

Need I say more.
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Very Good. :grin-square::grin-square::grin-square:
 
It's just pool room banter and life banter. Tell me you have never been in a heated discussion and someone says bet on it?

I have a better question? Why do so many people start off their posts by calling someone else a tool, a fool, a pussy, an asshole, jerk, numbnuts, wacko, fag, idiot, etc...... and then MAYBE say something about the actual topic?

Just curious why they can't simply make their point without the personal attack which then invites a personal attack in response?????

I have been in PLENTY of pool rooms and in NONE of them do people argue that way. They might say BET a lot when trying to make their point but they certainly don't start out by using personal insults that amount to fighting words unless they are looking for a fight. Trust me I have been in pool room woofing contests with some of the best over the years. Most of the people on this forum would get their asses handed to them if they ever tried to pull the same shit in real life as they do here.
 
JB Cases said:
It's just pool room banter and life banter. Tell me you have never been in a heated discussion and someone says bet on it?

Just curious why they can't simply make their point without the personal attack
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Perhaps your life banter. When a discussion becomes heated, then its no longer a discussion. I don't go there. Should it happen I walk away, they have proved nothing and I am no longer interested. If they think it makes them right, they need a reality check. The SYS syndrome becomes evident.

Agreed, personal attacks are not needed but sometimes the heated discussion (read that as no discussion) people need a reality check. Puffing their chest is similar to the Thanksgiving Turkey before the axe. Ah good they understood jerk, I'm making progress! lol

The guy I called numb-nuts a few days ago understood me well. No it was not here but he needed a reality check. Wake up, if you like to cause problems your gonna hear about it. You'll spend all your time trying to defend your position. Well either that or just say -- "Bet on It" which put you there to begin with.

Rod
 
I disagree that it's banter but that is relative to me. No, your question is not a better question to me either. When someone resolves an issue by challenging someone rather than discussing I think they are being a jerk. This is in no way fighting words. You can act like a jerk, I act like a jerk sometimes and I feel they should be aware of how they are acting. Same with asshole. However, calling someone a pussy, tool or idiot would be fighting words since you are now challenging their competence and hitting their pride. In essence, by challenging someone you are attacking their pride. That seems more fighting words than what i said. Someone will lose in such a matchup and their pride will be bruised. Better to part ways with a difference of opinion without anger, hostility and damaged pride.

I wouldn't get my ass handed in a pool room because I wouldn't get involved in this kind of situation. Once it passes civil discussion and turns into a challenge and woofing contest, I just let them win by their book and walk away.

JB Cases said:
It's just pool room banter and life banter. Tell me you have never been in a heated discussion and someone says bet on it?

I have a better question? Why do so many people start off their posts by calling someone else a tool, a fool, a pussy, an asshole, jerk, numbnuts, wacko, fag, idiot, etc...... and then MAYBE say something about the actual topic?

Just curious why they can't simply make their point without the personal attack which then invites a personal attack in response?????

I have been in PLENTY of pool rooms and in NONE of them do people argue that way. They might say BET a lot when trying to make their point but they certainly don't start out by using personal insults that amount to fighting words unless they are looking for a fight. Trust me I have been in pool room woofing contests with some of the best over the years. Most of the people on this forum would get their asses handed to them if they ever tried to pull the same shit in real life as they do here.
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I think part of the problem with this particular forum is that some of us DO come from the pool room where people don't have a problem with the woofing and barking and everyone understands how far they can take it without escalating into something serious. And a lot of the posters on this forum aren't really part of that subculture in pool. They don't get it from that perspective.

That's my thoughts on the matter.

But as far as challenging someone to bet on their words what better way is there to see if a person really believes what they are saying?

If they won't bet on it and won't invest in it then how convinced of their position are they really?

I say "bet on it" a lot and propose the experiments to test my side of the debate. I am fully willing to take a financial beating if I am wrong.

By the same token I once said Kelly Fisher is one of the best players on the planet and that she can hang with any man. Well the line to bet against me got longer it would be if they started giving away free Iphones at the Apple Store. Were all those people wrong to ask me to bet on my words and back them up with something concrete?
 
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