Chinese-8 Tournament Experience

Flakeandrun

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I don't often play Chinese-8 ball, but was given a pleasant reminder that it is actually a really fun game this weekend. I competed in a pretty chilled out mixed doubles event, with handicapping according to a scale created by the organizer. The venue was enormous, 50+ Chinese-8 tables, 3 American tables and 5 Snooker tables (I would post more pictures, but it's too much effort to red line all the faces/respect privacy).

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The players are ranked DD to A+, then S and S+ class, based on criteria that translates pretty ambiguously. Each ranking is assigned a number of racks, then the total needed to win a game is a culmination of the two players ranking Vs. the other pairing. Sounds complicated, and it was for my small brain. But I just played and let my partner figure it out (D was 1 rack required - S+ was 10). It was cool to see some of the local top players that pop up in WeChat videos playing ridiculous shots.

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Got knocked out in the first round (A/C vs. C/C pairing). We were 2-0 up, needing the 8 in rack three, and my partner bottled it. We then lost 3 in a row, taking the game to the 8 each time. We won one more, before we got knocked out (I sank the 8 early in the final rack trying to cannon into a cluster, and to be honest, this was great as I could see my partner was quite down about his performance - taking it a little too seriously).

Getting knocked out was actually a much more fun experience for me, as the tables were 'free play' after this. Free tea, free table time and loads of players of different ability mingling or watching other players play. I was labelled as 'A' and did not play in such a manner at all in the doubles game. A combination of re-adjusting to the tables and style of play, and the odd language barrier issue.

After we lost the game, I had a chance to play a wide variety of people and enjoyed myself, probably playing a few racks of 'A' standard towards the end. I enjoyed playing a couple of S/S+ ranked players and watching how they think, or plan the table. Taking a couple of racks, or even playing and losing a decent rack against them is always a serotonin boost.

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Chinese-8 is an interesting game, and I think the enjoyment and standard of play is very much dictated by the 'match-up'. It's a much more thoughtful, cautious game than 8-ball on an American table. The cushions are lightning, and are crucial in maneuvering of the balls. Speed control can seem incredibly unusual at first, with shots rebounding twice as fast as you played them onto the cushion. Safety and percentage play can be fascinating to watch. As can watching high-level players slamming balls down the rail into the outside knuckle of the corner pocket and watching them rattle in.

The atmosphere was very friendly, and there were groups of players from different districts mingling or making small bets on 'HORSE' style shot-making games. After free-play for a few hours, and watching the tournament finish, a few different groups went their separate ways for dinner (big fan of a Dongbei iron pot).

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Very much a game for existing cue sports enthusiasts to enjoy, or domestic audiences to rally behind and cheer about (a bit like American football 'world championships' are for Americans). I much prefer the comfort of the American table, and also the speed of play. But I am much more inclined to take up offers from friends to play Chinese-8 now, rather than dragging them to play 8/9/10-ball at my local.
 
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Well, at least the food was good. Its just one game i do not like at all.
I know, you commented before in other threads about this, and actually I agree with most of your thoughts about it (to some extent). It can be incredibly slow, or not so interesting to watch when the match up isn't on point. But to play, it can be very strategic and the shot selection very imaginative.

Slamming in a long ball also sounds so much nicer in those pockets than on an American table.

It was a toss-up between one group of friends getting a Sichuan Hot pot, or this iron pot full of meat. I chose correctly. The atmosphere of this restaurant was actually incredible, but again too lazy to red line faces. Lots of people enjoying themselves, and incredible customer service.

It started with huge chunks of cow, and some corn bread (steamed in the pot). Once you eat a bit, they add more and re-steam, then eat a bit more, they make a soup/sauce and re-steam. It just keeps going. The chickens feet are super delicious, melting all soft and squishy.
 
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I don't often play Chinese-8 ball, but was given a pleasant reminder that it is actually a really fun game this weekend. I competed in a pretty chilled out mixed doubles event, with handicapping according to a scale created by the organizer. The venue was enormous, 50+ Chinese-8 tables, 3 American tables and 5 Snooker tables (I would post more pictures, but it's too much effort to red line all the faces/respect privacy).

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The players are ranked DD to A+, then S and S+ class, based on criteria that translates pretty ambiguously. Each ranking is assigned a number of racks, then the total needed to win a game is a culmination of the two players ranking Vs. the other pairing. Sounds complicated, and it was for my small brain. But I just played and let my partner figure it out (D was 1 rack required - S+ was 10). It was cool to see some of the local top players that pop up in WeChat videos playing ridiculous shots.

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Got knocked out in the first round (A/C vs. C/C pairing). We were 2-0 up, needing the 8 in rack three, and my partner bottled it. We then lost 3 in a row, taking the game to the 8 each time. We won one more, before we got knocked out (I sank the 8 early in the final rack trying to cannon into a cluster, and to be honest, this was great as I could see my partner was quite down about his performance - taking it a little too seriously).

Getting knocked out was actually a much more fun experience for me, as the tables were 'free play' after this. Free tea, free table time and loads of players of different ability mingling or watching other players play. I was labelled as 'A' and did not play in such a manner at all in the doubles game. A combination of re-adjusting to the tables and style of play, and the odd language barrier issue.

After we lost the game, I had a chance to play a wide variety of people and enjoyed myself, probably playing a few racks of 'A' standard towards the end. I enjoyed playing a couple of S/S+ ranked players and watching how they think, or plan the table. Taking a couple of racks, or even playing and losing a decent rack against them is always a serotonin boost.

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Chinese-8 is an interesting game, and I think the enjoyment and standard of play is very much dictated by the 'match-up'. It's a much more thoughtful, cautious game than 8-ball on an American table. The cushions are lightning, and are crucial in maneuvering of the balls. Speed control can seem incredibly unusual at first, with shots rebounding twice as fast as you played them onto the cushion. Safety and percentage play can be fascinating to watch. As can watching high-level players slamming balls down the rail into the outside knuckle of the corner pocket and watching them rattle in.

The atmosphere was very friendly, and there were groups of players from different districts mingling or making small bets on 'HORSE' style shot-making games. After free-play for a few hours, and watching the tournament finish, a few different groups went their separate ways for dinner (big fan of a Dongbei iron pot).

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Very much a game for existing cue sports enthusiasts to enjoy, or domestic audiences to rally behind and cheer about (a bit like American football 'world championships' are for Americans). I much prefer the comfort of the American table, and also the speed of play. But I am much more inclined to take up offers from friends to play Chinese-8 now, rather than dragging them to play 8/9/10-ball at my local.
Thanks for the write-up.

Maybe I missed it, but where was this?
 
Thanks for the write-up.

Maybe I missed it, but where was this?
I live in Shanghai.
I know the Chinese table doesn't get much love here on the forum, and personally I know which game I prefer to play. But it can be a really fun game to play.
 
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I'd also add, breaking is an absolute pleasure on these tables. The responsive cushions make you feel like you're breaking with a hammer. I still break in the same way I would break a rack of American 8-ball, but It was interesting to see the various styles of breaking for this game. Many people opting to draw the cue ball back to bounce from the top cushion, and some blasting at an angle aligned with the 3rd ball to hit the head ball. Zero second ball breakers.
 
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i enjoy reading about your exploits over there. aside from the nittiness and nativism you sometimes mention, it seems like a cool, thriving cue sport scene with serious players and nice looking pool rooms.
 
i enjoy reading about your exploits over there. aside from the nittiness and nativism you sometimes mention, it seems like a cool, thriving cue sport scene with serious players and nice looking pool rooms.
Nowhere's perfect. But always looking for the good, rather than the bad :)
Definitely passionate/interested in cue sports here, and some of the facilities are mind-blowing.
Definitely lots of opportunities that I'd never have back home. I wouldn't ever have played pool 'properly' if it wasn't for being here, and needing escapism from some other things in my life at the time. It's been great to find a challenging thing to do, with lots of opportunities and add to my daily life routine :)
 
Great report!
Glad you enjoyed it. My goal is to get to some events in other cities this year and explore a bit more. Just need to figure out trains and transport stuff in advance. I'm lucky enough to only work weekends once in a blue moon. So trying to be proactive.
 
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