Chris Hightower videos

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Mc2 said:
No thanks, I would rather buy from Chris.
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You go right ahead and buy from Chris! But there is no reason why a person shouldn't be able to sell used tapes on ebay and post a message hear to let the folks here know they are available.

So you go right ahead a buy from wherever you like but I for one do not appreciate the attitude that you seem to think that there is some how something wrong with or that it is somehow hurtful to Chris to sell a set of used tapes on ebay.
 
if I choice , I will buy from Chris

because you can trahsfer tape to DVD and backup to your computer , and sell me
tape...

:mad:
 
Adonisy said:
if I choice , I will buy from Chris

because you can trahsfer tape to DVD and backup to your computer , and sell me
tape...

:mad:
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You have every right to buy from anyone you like!!! But why would you attack someone elses character and motives?? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone... It takes one to know one.... If you spot it you probably got it... Maybe they are just an old set he wants to get a coulpe of buck out of.
 
chris are there your tapes or not?

i also would buy them directly from chris.

tsp&b i dont think you can win the arguement. if they are originals then its ok but if the they are pirated any of chris' customers/friends are gonna frown on this.

guess well find out soon enough




ps... i just said but pirate in the same sentence...lol:D :D :D im tired
 
tsp&b said:
You have every right to buy from anyone you like!!! But why would you attack someone elses character and motives?? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone... It takes one to know one.... If you spot it you probably got it... Maybe they are just an old set he wants to get a coulpe of buck out of.
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You are correct. I got my first set of tapes used on e-bay that originated from Deikman. I am sure who ever sold them to me made coppies or got their use from them. I will not do that again. I will not re-sell them again and I would not bother Dennis unless I purchased them from him. All of the rest that I own are originals and will not be sold. These items are along the lines of software. You are purchasing the rite to use them. Not to duplicate them. Don't get me wrong. Duplicating for back up is a diffrent matter. Any new cue maker would be advised to buy directly so that they may recieve support from Chris. You say it doesn't hurt him. I dis-agree. Fortunatly that is just an opinion. I know of at leasy one person in this group that recieved duplicates and actualy contactd the maker and bugged him for help. When he didn't get it that person slandered the maker. Where do you draw the line in the sand? I would like to think that most cue makers have a high sense of morals. I could be wrong!

jimbo.
 
Mc2 said:
You are correct. I got my first set of tapes used on e-bay that originated from Deikman. I am sure who ever sold them to me made coppies or got their use from them. I will not do that again. I will not re-sell them again and I would not bother Dennis unless I purchased them from him. All of the rest that I own are originals and will not be sold. These items are along the lines of software. You are purchasing the rite to use them. Not to duplicate them. Don't get me wrong. Duplicating for back up is a diffrent matter. Any new cue maker would be advised to buy directly so that they may recieve support from Chris. You say it doesn't hurt him. I dis-agree. Fortunatly that is just an opinion. I know of at leasy one person in this group that recieved duplicates and actualy contactd the maker and bugged him for help. When he didn't get it that person slandered the maker. Where do you draw the line in the sand? I would like to think that most cue makers have a high sense of morals. I could be wrong!

jimbo.
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well said... anyone that has worked with chris knows he is such a wonderful guy and helps with ANYTHING u need. i will line his pockets before anyone else....
 
Wow

Wow, this thread has gone where I didn't expect it to go. These are the original videos purchased from Chris several years ago. I just bought his new set of dvd's and thought That since I didn't have a need for the old ones any longer, I'd sell them.

I have all the respect in the world for Chris and his company. Over the years, I have invested several thousands of dollars in his eqipment and supplies. I would never copy his material and try to sell it. If you don't feel comfortable that the video's are original, then by all means stay away from them.
 
tsp&b said:
You go right ahead and buy from Chris! But there is no reason why a person shouldn't be able to sell used tapes on ebay and post a message hear to let the folks here know they are available.

So you go right ahead a buy from wherever you like but I for one do not appreciate the attitude that you seem to think that there is some how something wrong with or that it is somehow hurtful to Chris to sell a set of used tapes on ebay.
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I completly agree. tsp&b has every right to sell these tapes if he wishes.. And how could this posssibly hurt chris or his buisness? Thats like saying that people should'nt sell there used equipment because it's going to hurt chris's buisness. And for that matter Chris will even point people in the direction of someone selling equipment if he knows of any. So how is this any different????
 
case_ace25 said:
so long as theyre original the sale is ok. some people like to record and recoupe some money
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Even at that yes it is moraly wrong to retape and sell to recoupe some money. But its not illegal because it is not copyrighted materal. But yes it is dishonest to do so.
 
Still yet, these are assumptions, and not known facts regardless of any moral issue. Just cause someone else has done it, doesn't mean he has, unless there is proof. Doesn't look like he's selling copies here. The tapes are more then Likely the originals from what I see. Why give this guy a hard for selling them, and ruining his action, when that is all that is known as fact, that he is selling the originals.:) Selling copies for profit would be a whole different story though;)

Just thought It should be said I mean no disrespect to Chris, I aggree that someone selling copies would be wrong regardless of legal or moral issues. I too have spent many dollars with him, and will continue for years to come I'm sure, there are just some things I only get from him, where other things I may get from different sources, but regardless I will always have a need to deal with him, so I also would take that side if these were copies. That doesn't appear to be the case though, and anything else is just making assumptions.

Greg
 
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JBCustomCues said:
Even at that yes it is moraly wrong to retape and sell to recoupe some money. But its not illegal because it is not copyrighted materal. But yes it is dishonest to do so.
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chris as a buisness man should have some type of protection against this
 
Some people buy these tapes, books, ect. and decide that cuemaking is just too much work for them. Are you saying that they should be stuck with the tapes. Why not sell and recoup some of the cost if not all. I purchased the DPK cuemaking manual which is no longer available. I am sure people would be lined up around the block to get an original work by a true master of the art.
 
cuemaker03 said:
Are you saying that they should be stuck with the tapes.
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Nope, I am saying that we cue makers who know Chris should know better than to purchase videos not from the original sources. Chris is supporting those of us with lesser knowledge. He deserves to dircetly recieve royalties from us. It is quite possible that those tapes could be sold several times to several people. None of which may ever be a cue maker. I am suggesting that those who have already done buisness directly with Chris wouldn't want to purchase his videos from other sources. I know in good faith that I could contact Joe, Chris, or Brian and they would answer any questions I asked regaurding their videos. These guys are not just selling videos for a buck. They stand behind their products and techniques.

Jimbo.
 
The one thing I will mention about buying used DVD's or Videos is that they do not come with a credit toward a machine like some of the ones bought directly from me do. Not much else to say on the matter.
 
JBCustomCues said:
I completly agree. tsp&b has every right to sell these tapes if he wishes.. And how could this posssibly hurt chris or his buisness? Thats like saying that people should'nt sell there used equipment because it's going to hurt chris's buisness. And for that matter Chris will even point people in the direction of someone selling equipment if he knows of any. So how is this any different????
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Thanks!! I appreciate your views... However please understand I'm not the individual who has the tapes for sale. SLIPROCK is.
 
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Saying that we can't or shouldn't sell our (Original, not copies) old Tapes or DVDs that we bought originally from Chris, is like saying we can't or shouldn't sell our used '68 mustang, when we decide we don't need it anymore, because it wouldn't be fair to Ford. This applies to anything we have bought in life. I agree it's really wrong to make copies of videos, or to copy someone's products, then come on here and try to sell it, which I have seen that happen here, in the not so distant past. But if we own it and want to sell it, what is the proper way? People are always selling Chris's and Porper's used lathes in the F/S area all the time, and cue builders buy them. I don't see that as wrong.
That being said, this is my opinion, and everyone is allowed to follow their own beliefs, and that's ok.:)
Dave
 
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