Continental won't let you insure pool cues!

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I pulled this directly from Continental's website. I don't know if any other airlines state this, but to me this gives free rein to employees that want to steal things! This is also valid for golf clubs!

Pool Cues
Continental accepts one Pool Cue case containing Pool Cues per customer in lieu of one piece of free baggage.

Continental is not liable for damage to Pool Cues.

Excess Valuation (insurance is excess valuation)may not be purchased for Pool Cues.

Pool Cues carried in addition to the free baggage allowance will be assessed at current excess baggage charges.
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http://www.continental.com/web/en-US/content/travel/baggage/sports.aspx

I guess I will have to ship my cues via FedEx if I ever want to take them somewhere!

And to think all this time I have been telling people to just get a travel bag and take their cues on the plane! I guess I was wrong!

Oh by the way if you want to insure it through FedEx, UPS, or the Post Office you want make sure you have reciepts or something to prove how much they were worth. Without proof of the value they will not pay you for the insurance coverage. My old lady works for UPS, and my mom works for the Post Office so just a little tip for you all that might want to ship them in the mail!
 
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maybe continental just doesn't want to have pool players on their flights. i suggest you don't wear your 9ball t-shirt when you board.
 
Lol

Well the won't let you insure most sporting equipment.

I will wear my pool shirts if I want to! Oh darn, they might think I am a terrorist and want to search me though! Maybe I shouldn't wear it.
 
Rent a Car!

Here's a fix for the whole situation. Drive to your intended location. Rent a car and see the countryside, as you travel in the luxury of a car that is much more comfortable than a seat in an airplane. That car won't usually require walking through a metal detector, or prevent you from taking pool cues or other sports equipment. It also stops for restrooms, restaurants and pool halls along the way, when necessary. Yes, it might take you a day or two extra to get there, but that rental costs much less than a plane ticket (until you add the cost of insurance, gasoline, and motels), but you gain so much more, in return! :cool:

And, I don't think anyone would squawk about you wearing a 9 ball t-shirt in the luxury and privacy of the rental. ;)
 
txplshrk said:
Well the won't let you insure most sporting equipment.

I will wear my pool shirts if I want to! Oh darn, they might think I am a terrorist and want to search me though! Maybe I shouldn't wear it.
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wearing a 9ball T automatically gets you pulled over to the side.
 
txplshrk said:
I pulled this directly from Continental's website. I don't know if any other airlines state this, but to me this gives free rein to employees that want to steal things! This is also valid for golf clubs!.....
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It's also valid for virtually all sports equipment and most airlines are similar, this isn't a pool vendetta by Continental!

Do not confuse the absence of an excess valuation insurance facility with an absence of standard Carriers liability for losing your property. On internal USA flights Continental are liable as Carriers under the terms and conditions of your air ticket for up tp $3,000 dollars worth of any luggage (including pool cues) which are lost/stolen and you do not require to purchase anything other than your air ticket to qualify for those rights.

However if you are not happy with relying upon their standard liability as Carriers and/or if you have cues which are valued at more than $3,000 dollars there are independent Insurance brokers/companies in the High streets which can arrange insurance cover for your sports equipment for specific periods or for specific journeys, including the risk of loss/theft during air, road, rail or sea transportation. Some of these policies also include the risk of accidental physical 'damage' though this has to be demonstrated to be fortuitous and to have definitely happened during the insured period to be recoverable under the policy.

It is absurd to suggest that any airlines insurance practices give free rein to employees to steal things. Airlines lose money bigtime whenever anyone's luggage goes missing. Obviously you should always pack your cues well in a protective case if you are checking them in as luggage because virtually no Air Carriers accept liability for 'damage' to sports equipment.
 
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txplshrk said:
I pulled this directly from Continental's website. I don't know if any other airlines state this, but to me this gives free rein to employees that want to steal things! This is also valid for golf clubs!.....
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Acidental duplicate so deleted.........system sees to have gone haywire.
 
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Continental & other air lines

I won't take my custom cues on an air plane because I can't even depend on them getting my luggage with my clothes to my destination in one piece. I've had lost baggage and damaged suit cases many times.

With this in mind there's no way I could let those same air line baggage people handle my $3000 custom pool cue so I got a sneaky pete that I can use my predator playing shaft on (the same shaft I use on my custom cue) to take with me on a trip to a pool tournament. I could stand the damage or loss of a sneaky pete cue and 1 predator shaft a lot easier than losing my custom cue.
 
memikey said:
It's also valid for virtually all sports equipment and most airlines are similar, this isn't a pool vendetta by Continental!

Do not confuse the absence of an excess valuation insurance facility with an absence of standard Carriers liability for losing your property. On internal USA flights Continental are liable as Carriers under the terms and conditions of your air ticket for up tp $3,000 dollars worth of any luggage (including pool cues) which are lost/stolen and you do not require to purchase anything other than your air ticket to qualify for those rights.

However if you are not happy with relying upon their standard liability as Carriers and/or if you have cues which are valued at more than $3,000 dollars there are independent Insurance brokers/companies in the High streets which can arrange insurance cover for your sports equipment for specific periods or for specific journeys, including the risk of loss/theft during air, road, rail or sea transportation. Some of these policies also include the risk of accidental physical 'damage' though this has to be demonstrated to be fortuitous and to have definitely happened during the insured period to be recoverable under the policy.

It is absurd to suggest that any airlines insurance practices give free rein to employees to steal things. Airlines lose considerably any time anyones luggage goes missing. Obviously you should pack your cues well in a protective case if you are checking it in as luggage because virtually no Air Carriers accept liability for 'damage' to sports equipment.
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I didn't say it was just for pool players, and I also stated in my next post that it was for most sporting equipment!

I just said you couldn't purchase insurance for pool cues!

Here is what they say for there $3000 baggage claim:

For travel entirely within the U.S. on or after Feb. 28, 2007, Continental's liability for any form of damage as a result of loss, damage or delay in delivery of a customer's personal property shall be limited to the fair market value at the time of loss, damage or delay and will not exceed $3,000.00 per customer, except for wheelchairs and other assistive devices.

However, if you read their sporting goods claim:

Continental accepts one Pool Cue case containing Pool Cues per customer in lieu of one piece of free baggage.

Continental is not liable for damage to Pool Cues.

Excess Valuation may not be purchased for Pool Cues.

Pool Cues carried in addition to the free baggage allowance will be assessed at current excess baggage charges.

This states you can replace a piece of luggage for a pool cue, but they are not responsible for it, and you can't get insurance on it!
 
txplshrk said:
....This states you can replace a piece of luggage for a pool cue, but they are not responsible for it, and you can't get insurance on it!
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You have misunderstood their terms and conditions and it seems, part of my post.

Re the above highlighted bit it doesn't state that at all, nor does it mean that. It states that they will not be liable for "damage" to a pool cue. This does not absolve them from their contractual liability as Carriers for "loss or theft" of any of your luggage (including a pool cue) nor is that clause even intended to try and absolve them from that. If Continental lose your cue (due to theft or any other cause) they are liable as Carriers, i.e. nothing whatsoever to do with any insurance, to compensate you the passenger for its reasonable market value, along with anything else in the luggage that is lost, up to a maximum of $3,000 for all the luggage that's lost. If however they just damage your pool cue they're not liable for one cent.

I already explained this in another way in my first post, hope it's now clearer to you if you read it again in the light of the above:)
 
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Home owners insurance

If you get the pool cue listed separately on your home owners insurance it will most likely be covered. I know mine is on Allstate. Over a certain price it has to be listed as a piece of art I think. I forget what the limit is. $5000 maybe? Its been a while since I talked to my agent about it. But I would get it listed so it can be covered for damage/. theft/ mysterious dissappearance...all of that. You can always mail your cues next day air to many places. I never did trust airlines with ANYTHING valuable. If I cannot take it on the plane (like an expensive camera or cuestick) I wont take it.
 
I agree that your homeowner's insurance (maybe "renter's insurance also) will cover losses while travelling. I discussed this at length with my agent prior to last May's BCA in Vegas. He further told me that I didn't have to have a separate list or rider for coverage. Most policies list the types of property that are not covered without a specific rider providing coverage for the specific item. I am with All State and my policy does not list pool cues as an excluded or limited item. Per All State this means my pool cues are covered for theft/loss/damage just like any other non-excluded personal property.
 
memikey said:
You have misunderstood their terms and conditions and it seems, part of my post.

Re the above highlighted bit it doesn't state that at all, nor does it mean that. It states that they will not be liable for "damage" to a pool cue. This does not absolve them from their contractual liability as Carriers for "loss or theft" of any of your luggage (including a pool cue) nor is that clause even intended to try and absolve them from that. If Continental lose your cue (due to theft or any other cause) they are liable as Carriers, i.e. nothing whatsoever to do with any insurance, to compensate you the passenger for its reasonable market value, along with anything else in the luggage that is lost, up to a maximum of $3,000 for all the luggage that's lost. If however they just damage your pool cue they're not liable for one cent.

I already explained this in another way in my first post, hope it's now clearer to you if you read it again in the light of the above:)
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They may be responsible if it is lost, but I would be more worried about it getting damaged and they are not responsible.

If you mail it, then they are responsible for the damage that might occur.
 
cueandcushion said:
If you get the pool cue listed separately on your home owners insurance it will most likely be covered. I know mine is on Allstate. Over a certain price it has to be listed as a piece of art I think. I forget what the limit is. $5000 maybe? Its been a while since I talked to my agent about it. But I would get it listed so it can be covered for damage/. theft/ mysterious dissappearance...all of that. You can always mail your cues next day air to many places. I never did trust airlines with ANYTHING valuable. If I cannot take it on the plane (like an expensive camera or cuestick) I wont take it.
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Yea, but only if you have home owners! I already checked for renters insurance and it isn't the same. Guess I need to buy a home soon!
 
As explained in an earlier post there are insurance options open to anyone to specifically insure their sports equipment along with any other personal items like clothes etc etc for loss/damage/theft when they travel. Sometimes the premium will even be less pro rata than the 1 dollar per 100 excess valuation which Continental charge you for items in respect of which they are willing to arrange insurance.

Any experienced reputable insurance broker can point you towards those options. I often take out such cover when I travel internationally with golf clubs, usually for a two week insured period. Stupidly I don't as regards my pool cues despite a recent scare when an airline temporarily "lost" two out of three of mine en route to a Shanghai event last year.

Insurers are often quite willing to issue such cover as they know they have a good chance of recovering anything they have to pay you for 'lost' or 'stolen' equipment under subrogation rights which they then have against Carriers like airlines or anyone else deemed responsible for the loss.

Bit of a hassle to have to do it separately and of course it would be so much easier if the airlines and their chosen Insurers just included sports equipment as an insurable option at check-in. However we have to appreciate that they have very good risk and loss records and if they have chosen to exclude sports equipment there are probably sound historical and commercial reasons for it.

The best hope for us travelling pool cue owners is to lobby in writing over and over again the airline and security bodies to take pool cues off the list of items not permitted as cabin luggage.
 
do they still let you check a firearm in baggage? (like a hunting rifle)??

I've never done this b4 but i know alot of people fly to alaska to hunt & take rifles with them (i'm guessing).

If so, do they make you open the rifle case?


Does anyone see where i'm going with this? (put cues in rifle case, insure "rifle")

There's probaby a very good reason why this can't be done, but i'd like to hear it.
 
asn130 said:
do they still let you check a firearm in baggage? (like a hunting rifle)??

I've never done this b4 but i know alot of people fly to alaska to hunt & take rifles with them (i'm guessing).

If so, do they make you open the rifle case?


Does anyone see where i'm going with this? (put cues in rifle case, insure "rifle")

There's probaby a very good reason why this can't be done, but i'd like to hear it.
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Yes you can check-in a firearm as luggage and purchase excess insurance for it with Continental..........and yes can see 'where' you're going with this......simply have absolutely no idea 'why' you are going:)

1. One more time.......you don't need insurance against the airline losing your pool cue. If they lose it they're liable to pay you for it, so no point in 'disguising' it as a rifle in order to try and insure against them losing it.

2. If you want to be able to claim under the excess insurance you purchase from Continental for 'damage' sustained by your pool cue it would be cretinous to 'disguise' it and falsely declare it as a rifle. If it does get 'damaged' you will have to show the airline or their appointed insurance surveyor/assessor the damage at which time I'll stick my neck out and take a wild stab in the dark that unless the insurance assessor is Stevie Wonder it might just conceivably be noticed that the insured 'rifle' is in fact not a rifle but a pool cue, rendering your insurance null and void and putting you on an insurance black list for attempted fraud:rolleyes:

So the point of this exercise is?...............
 
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