Convert irish linen to wrapless
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I wish, lol. I hate that wrap all the way down on that cue. I like that cue better than the reversed wrapless version that I had. Someone will chime in but, I know you can get a finish over top of the linen to feel and look like a wrapless like Meucci's do. I don't think they use a highly figured wood under the wrap that you would want to be seen unless they stain it or maybe but some kind of wood veneer around it. You should take this question to the Cuemakers section where the experts are. Good luck.
A finish over the linen to make it feel like a wrapless. Or as close as you can come to it.
A stack leather wrap.
It both looks great and feels great. If you like the way your cue plays and want to keep it, its your best and cheapest option. You can stain or dye the stack wrap to the color you prefer. You'd probably end up with a very nice looking cue.
Replacing the handle which is costly and you may as well sell yours and buy another when all is said and spent.
Edit. I Googled your cue. I can see why you might want to keep it. Not worth replacing the handle. A nice stack wrap in black or a color that would match the veneers would work A OK. Go black stack and no one could tell the difference.
A stack leather wrap.
It both looks great and feels great. If you like the way your cue plays and want to keep it, its your best and cheapest option. You can stain or dye the stack wrap to the color you prefer. You'd probably end up with a very nice looking cue.
Replacing the handle which is costly and you may as well sell yours and buy another when all is said and spent.
Edit. I Googled your cue. I can see why you might want to keep it. Not worth replacing the handle. A nice stack wrap in black or a color that would match the veneers would work A OK. Go black stack and no one could tell the difference.
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i played with this cue for year and so far like it, just figure out that i got wrong wrap.. it's so slippery and i cant grip cue loose and it affects my accuracy so bad. The problem is i dont know any cue maker which can install stack leather in my country and also thinking about overgrip rubber but not sure if cue fits in case and also cue looks bad with overgrip
Stacked leather wrap . . .
That's probably your best option . . . or just sell the cue and go buy a wrapless replacement.
Steve Lomax, Ryan at Seybert's (Rat Cue), Jim Lee, and many other fine cue builders on here can fix you up with a stack leather. They almost feel wrapless, but give you a subtle amount of tackiness and feel. Very cool for about $125 - $150.
That's probably your best option . . . or just sell the cue and go buy a wrapless replacement.
Steve Lomax, Ryan at Seybert's (Rat Cue), Jim Lee, and many other fine cue builders on here can fix you up with a stack leather. They almost feel wrapless, but give you a subtle amount of tackiness and feel. Very cool for about $125 - $150.
i played with this cue for year and so far like it, just figure out that i got wrong wrap.. it's so slippery and i cant grip cue loose and it affects my accuracy so bad. The problem is i dont know any cue maker which can install stack leather in my country and also thinking about overgrip rubber but not sure if cue fits in case and also cue looks bad with overgrip
Never heard of irish linen be more slippery than wrapless. You are talking about a bumpy uneven surface vs a smooth shiny one. If you have a very smooth double-pressed linen wrap (which I do on mine and it looks and feels almost like leather), you can get almost any cue repair guy to re-wrap the stick with a rougher linen.
Concerning the bolded part, it doesn't work like that. Just because a surface is "bumpy and uneven" doesn't mean it offers more grip. Think of sneakers on a shiny basketball court's floor. That floor is smooth and shiny, yet the sneakers will easily grab that surface that you think would be otherwise very slippery. Cover that surface with stretched cloth that has small fibers (such as linen), and watch the players slip and bust their *ss.
It has to do with the fact that a linen wrap is essentially cloth -- a single thread of which is pulled and wound on the surface, of course, but cloth nonetheless. It's designed for absorbency, not for grip. In fact, the same style of linen wrap is used on javelins, and the reason why that is used, is for release purposes (so that the javelin does not "stick" to the skin of the hand, but releases easily) and therefore easily flies out of the hand.
A gloss finish actually makes better contact with the skin of the hand, and introduces a concept of "tack" (meaning, "tackiness"). This is why a slip stroke is much, MUCH easier with a linen wrap, rather than wrapless (which actually tends to "stick" to the skin).
Players such as Efren, who use a very light grip -- where the cue is resting upon a single contact point in the hand (the second joint of the index finger in Efren's case) -- tend to opt for wrapless or high-gloss finishes.
Stack leather wrap, as mentioned, is as close to wrapless as you can get without actually "being" wrapless. I'm in the midst of replacing all the wraps on my linen-wrapped cues with stack leather for this reason.
Here's a good video that shows how a stack leather wrap is installed, and what it looks like as a finished product:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EteSBoXm9bI
-Sean