CTE and Banking

One Pocket John

One Pocket John

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This has been driving me crazy for quite a while. So I'm going to ask.

First off I have studied Stan's video many times and have watched all of his YT videos many times.

I have no problem with the visual perceptions of A, B, and C. I pivot in the air on my way down into the shooting position.

What I have a hard time with is when I am down in the shooting position what am I suppose to look at when looking at the OB. I am use to looking for a contact point on the OB.

Do I line up the edge of the QB with one of the letters.

I play one pocket. To me if I could get this straight in my head it would really help.

Just don't know?

My hat is off to those of you that have got this figured out.

Thanks

John
 
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Banking

Hi John,
All of your basic direct pocket shots are taking you to right angle locations which are pockets. Please know that if you are doing the system correctly, the system is taking you to the shot lines.

Bank alignments take the player to right angle locations that extend beyond the given table. For basic one rail banks, for the most part, just think one table over. Two rails banks create a little thinking and analyzing.

Marking the CB OB for shot considerations allow for trail and error with any given shot and pivoting directions.

For me, the initial cushion for a one rail bank is about like having a curtain in front of a typical shot.

Having said the above, banking is a lot about aiming but speed and spin are equally important factors.

I will do my best to meet with you in Saint Louis during my next visit and help you to get squared away.

Stan Shuffett
 
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stan shuffett said:
Hi John,
All of your basic direct pocket shots are taking you to right angle location. Please know that if you are doing the system the system is taking you to shot lines.

Bank alignments take the player to right angle locations that extend beyond the given table. For basic one rail banks, for the most part, just think one table over. Two rails banks create a little thinking and analyzing.

Marking the CB OB for shot considerations allows for trail and error with any given shot and pivoting directions.

For me, the initial cushion for a one bank rail bank is about like having a curtain in front of a typical shot.

Having said the above, banking is a lot about aiming but speed and spin are much much greater factors to consider.

I will do my best to meet with you in Saint Louis duringvmy next visit and help you to get squared away.

Stan Shuffett
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Cool. (in bold) I'm retired almost 70 but love to learn.

I don't like bothering Landon even though he is here. Education is way more important than pool.

I am going to keep re-reading your post until it sinks in. Message me the next time your in St. Louis and we will meet. Friday, Saturday, Sunday or Monday would be good.

Thanks Stan. :)

John
 
One Pocket John said:
Cool. (in bold) I'm retired almost 70 but love to learn.

I don't like bothering Landon even though he is here. Education is way more important than pool.

I am going to keep re-reading your post until it sinks in. Message me the next time your in St. Louis and we will meet. Friday, Saturday, Sunday or Monday would be good.

Thanks Stan. :)

John
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Will do! John. Count on it!

Stan Shuffett
 
Stan,
I can see the visuals well also. I just re-watched disc 1 & 2 again. And back watching all the yt. With Banking sometimes I can see which cte to use others I can't.
Ill continue watching the dvds and you tubes and hope it clicks.
Thanks for the answer in the pm.................................
 
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One Pocket John said:
This has been driving me crazy for quite a while. So I'm going to ask.

First off I have studied Stan's video many times and have watched all of his YT videos many times.

I have no problem with the visual perceptions of A, B, and C. I pivot in the air on my way down into the shooting position.

What I have a hard time with is when I am down in the shooting position what am I suppose to look at when looking at the OB. I am use to looking for a contact point on the OB.

Do I line up the edge of the QB with one of the letters.

I play one pocket. To me if I could get this straight in my head it would really help.

Just don't know?

My hat is off to those of you that have got this figured out.

Thanks

John
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Hi John,
The A, B, and C visuals, I don't get. Do you pivot, to those points?
 
EddieBme said:
Hi John,
The A, B, and C visuals, I don't get. Do you pivot, to those points?
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What I do from a standing position is to rotate my body around until I see (with both eyes open) the QB edge lined up with A,B or C and the QB center lined up with the OB edge. Stan has this body rotating to the correct position of perception in one of his YT videos.

After getting my body set properly with the perception I then decide whether I want to fall straight down on the visual or pivot left or right and the shoot then shoot.

This is very hard to put into words. I'm really happy that Stan made a ton of YT videos to go back and watch.

Spending all of my pool shooting life picking a spot on the OB and then having the QB hit that spot is a hard habit to break away from that's why I was asking in CTE what do you look at on the OB when you are down in the shooting position. I'm just having a hard time trying to just look at the OB and not look for a spot on it to shoot at.

Thanks for the post. :)

John
 
One Pocket John said:
What I do from a standing position is to rotate my body around until I see (with both eyes open) the QB edge lined up with A,B or C and the QB center lined up with the OB edge. Stan has this body rotating to the correct position of perception in one of his YT videos.

After getting my body set properly with the perception I then decide whether I want to fall straight down on the visual or pivot left or right and the shoot then shoot.

This is very hard to put into words. I'm really happy that Stan made a ton of YT videos to go back and watch.

Spending all of my pool shooting life picking a spot on the OB and then having the QB hit that spot is a hard habit to break away from that's why I was asking in CTE what do you look at on the OB when you are down in the shooting position. I'm just having a hard time trying to just look at the OB and not look for a spot on it to shoot at.

Thanks for the post. :)
John
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I use Ghost Ball, or contact point on the OB also. I think that's why I have a hard time with aiming systems. I would need to spend some time, (a few hours I think) with an instructors that could guide me through the process one step at a time, before I could grasp the concept of any particular aiming system.

Thank you John
 
All of your basic direct pocket shots are taking you to right angle locations which are pockets. Please know that if you are doing the system correctly, the system is taking you to the shot lines.

Bank alignments take the player to right angle locations that extend beyond the given table. For basic one rail banks, for the most part, just think one table over. Two rails banks create a little thinking and analyzing.

Marking the CB OB for shot considerations allow for trail and error with any given shot and pivoting directions.

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Stan,
For the 1 rail banks, are you saying that you think of another table right next to the one your playin on ?
And then you aim at the imaginary pocket on the other table, like your going to cut the ball to that pocket and whatever the A,B or C and the CTEL is and pivot / sweep that's what you use for doing the bank ?
 
JE54 said:
All of your basic direct pocket shots are taking you to right angle locations which are pockets. Please know that if you are doing the system correctly, the system is taking you to the shot lines.

Bank alignments take the player to right angle locations that extend beyond the given table. For basic one rail banks, for the most part, just think one table over. Two rails banks create a little thinking and analyzing.

Marking the CB OB for shot considerations allow for trail and error with any given shot and pivoting directions.

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Stan,
For the 1 rail banks, are you saying that you think of another table right next to the one your playin on ?
And then you aim at the imaginary pocket on the other table, like your going to cut the ball to that pocket and whatever the A,B or C and the CTEL is and pivot / sweep that's what you use for doing the bank ?
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Yes!
The system will take you to the correct aim line. Your imaginary idea of where the pocket is located is corrected or tweaked by the system. When you are dealing with banks for CTE, slows speeds are optimal if your goal is zero adjustment. But slow speeds can be very problemental.

As your speed increases, adjustments with aim can be made.
Generally you look at AIM SPEED and SPIN in that order.
You must be very aware of CB OB collisions and what is happening....you must factor in which way the OB is being geared. That is huge for speed adjustments as well as for spin adjustments.

Stan Shuffett
 
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stan shuffett said:
Yes!
The system will take you to the correct aim line. Your imaginary idea of where the pocket is located is corrected or tweaked by the system. When you are dealing with banks for CTE, slows speeds are optimal if your goal is zero adjustment. But slow speeds can be very problemental.

As your speed increases, adjustments with aim can be made.
Generally you look at AIM SPEED and SPIN in that order.
You must be very aware of CB OB collisions and what is happening....you must factor in which way the OB is being geared. That is huge for speed adjustments as well as for spin adjustments.

Stan Shuffett
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In Bold.

I never gave the gearing any thought. I will now though.

Thanks Stan.

John
 
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