Cte pro one perception/visual pick up help.

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halfwaycrook

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Ok, first of all... I've been sifting through this forum on the cte mission for about 4 weeks now. Besides the pages and pages of bickering over the validity of this aiming system it was a good read. Unfortunately I'm still having problems. If you do not have tips, keep your opinions to yourself.

I've been using cte for about 3 months now and it has improved my game. We talking CTEL-INSIDE ETEL- half ball pivot and fire. I have recently purchased cte pro one and watched it a handful of times. I believe I'm picking up the visuals wrong along with the manual sweep. Every 3rd or 4th shot I get lucky I feel, but I think it's mostly cte and not pro one shining through. I've been told the visuals are somewhat obvious but it feels like I'm in doorknob fugging contest.

Any tips on that moment it "clicked" for you would be appreciated. If you feel thus tip shouldn't be posted publicly please inbox me.

Thanks in advance.

Hwc.
 
halfwaycrook said:
Ok, first of all... I've been sifting through this forum on the cte mission for about 4 weeks now. Besides the pages and pages of bickering over the validity of this aiming system it was a good read. Unfortunately I'm still having problems. If you do not have tips, keep your opinions to yourself.

I've been using cte for about 3 months now and it has improved my game. We talking CTEL-INSIDE ETEL- half ball pivot and fire. I have recently purchased cte pro one and watched it a handful of times. I believe I'm picking up the visuals wrong along with the manual sweep. Every 3rd or 4th shot I get lucky I feel, but I think it's mostly cte and not pro one shining through. I've been told the visuals are somewhat obvious but it feels like I'm in doorknob fugging contest.

Any tips on that moment it "clicked" for you would be appreciated. If you feel thus tip shouldn't be posted publicly please inbox me.

Thanks in advance.

Hwc.
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I'm not sure cause it's been so long, the visuals is kind of the part I take for granted. I remember it being really difficult at first, now I look at the cb ob relationship maybe tweak my head slightly and the visuals just lock in.

I'm definitely not double checking the cte line or the edge to (A,B,C) line. In fact when people post videos calling out the visuals as the pot balls, I have to slowly work out what they mean when they say edge to a, left visual sweep. Like my left or your left?

I just know when the visual is locked in and correct.

But it definitely wasn't like that at first. I think what really helped for me getting started in just learning to acquire the visuals was getting directly behind the ob ball and cueball straight on.

Then I'd get down real low so the cueball is mostly blocking the object ball, with the object ball peaking out over the top.

I'd move my head over until I could just see point A (for a 15 degree perception). At the same time I would "look" through the center of the cueball until it was lined up with the appropriate edge of the object ball.

You'll find there's only one place you can both just see point A, while still being lined up with CTE.

I found my adjustments for finding point A involved moving my head side to side, and finding center-to-edge involved rotating my head.

The reason I mean there's only one place you can see both A and CTE is, for example, if you line up A by moving your head side-to-side, you might notice that you're not exactly lined up Center-to-Edge. So let's say you rotate your head slightly, and now cte is all line up, but because you rotated your head, now edge to A is peaking out just a little bit too much. So you have to tweak back and forth between the side to side, and the rotating, until it's just right.

After a while you won't have to duck behind the cueball every time, and you'll be able to do it while standing up.

Another thing that might help is blurring your vision slightly. Almost like you're trying to just use your peripherals to line Edge to A and Center to Edge.

Sorry I can't be more help,
 
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As for the sweep direction, I have a hard time remembering what a left sweep or a right sweep is.

I prefer to think of sweep direction as whether I'm thickening or thinning the cut.

You should be able to tell by the visual, whether you're going to overcut or undercut the ball, and you apply the appropriate sweep to thin or thicken the shot.

For the most part, you'll be wanting to cut the ball thinner than the visual, other than straight-in shots, and one other exception that isn't important.

Thinning the shot uses and inside sweep, or the inside of the cut, or the side for inside english.

Thickening uses an outside sweep, or the side you would place your tip on for outside english.
 
Awesome, thank you. I had to pull out an old DVD player because mine would not play the dvd. This player does not have a remote so I cannot switch through chapters or look at the other stuff on the dvd...

I believe I'm going to set up a shot of each perception to a certain pocket and visually memorize them that way... it's comforting to think it can be so synchronized into your game.

Maybe I need a new dvd player? Heh.:wink:
 
I have been using it for a few weeks now also, I really do not know what I am doing so I just try to re-watch the DVD as much as possible. However I am pocketing way more shots that I would usually miss. I think part of it is the visuals and the other part is my previous training just gelling together with this new information. I would set up the shots the way Stan has them on the practice diagrams, that way you know what perception and what visuals you are supposed to follow.
 
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Yes, the thining and thickening of a shot helped me a bit on deciding the sweep. But like he said they get easier to recognize the more you use it... so I believe I'm going to set up a perfect 15, 30, 45, and 60 to one pocket left and right and just commit each to memory... are the majority of shots on average a 15 and a 30 perception?

Edit:maybe I should halt all questions until I can actually view guides with a proper dvd player.

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As for the sweep direction, I have a hard time remembering what a left sweep or a right sweep is.

I prefer to think of sweep direction as whether I'm thickening or thinning the cut.

You should be able to tell by the visual, whether you're going to overcut or undercut the ball, and you apply the appropriate sweep to thin or thicken the shot.

For the most part, you'll be wanting to cut the ball thinner than the visual, other than straight-in shots, and one other exception that isn't important.

Thinning the shot uses and inside sweep, or the inside of the cut, or the side for inside english.

Thickening uses an outside sweep, or the side you would place your tip on for outside english.
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Nice way to put it.
tonythetiger583 said:
I think what really helped for me getting started in just learning to acquire the visuals was getting directly behind the ob ball and cueball straight on.

Then I'd get down real low so the cueball is mostly blocking the object ball, with the object ball peaking out over the top.

I'd move my head over until I could just see point A (for a 15 degree perception). At the same time I would "look" through the center of the cueball until it was lined up with the appropriate edge of the object ball.

You'll find there's only one place you can both just see point A, while still being lined up with CTE.

I found my adjustments for finding point A involved moving my head side to side, and finding center-to-edge involved rotating my head.

The reason I mean there's only one place you can see both A and CTE is, for example, if you line up A by moving your head side-to-side, you might notice that you're not exactly lined up Center-to-Edge. So let's say you rotate your head slightly, and now cte is all line up, but because you rotated your head, now edge to A is peaking out just a little bit too much. So you have to tweak back and forth between the side to side, and the rotating, until it's just right.
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This makes sense, this would also work for the 30 perception but not the 45? Is it the 45 and 60 that you dont catch a CTEL?Thank you I think this will help me a lot.
 
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halfwaycrook said:
This makes sense, this would also work for the 30 perception but not the 45? Is it the 45 and 60 that you dont catch a CTEL?Thank you I think this will help me a lot.
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The 45 and 60 degree perceptions are two line perceptions in a sense but it's a little trickier.

If you pretend there is a mirror ball overlapping the object ball at the 1/4 ball mark, and 1/8 for the 60, the cte line is center-to-center of the mirrored ball.

Again, there's a video on youtube for it, but worry about the 15 and 30 for now.
 
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