CTE/Pro One Practice Table Set Up 2

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I'm getting some weird error message when I tried to go back into the first thread and add something. So I'll add it here.

The plastic strip with the lines is something I got, from I believe, Strike Line Aiming. I want to say it was Bob from Oklahoma who is a Certified SPF Instructor and came out with this around a year ago. The plastic strip is just one component.

You can see the plastic strip has various straight and dotted lines. I decided to use this for the straight in drill and also for the proposition shot at 19.5 and 21 I believe from Stan's DVD. I had to add a couple of hole reinforcers for the 19.5 and 21 shot which is a 30 degree half ball cut.

When I use this strip, it is really easy to see how you're offset when you get your CTE visual. It is a great tool to help you see perfectly how much you need to sweep. As you are moving into the ball, when you see the lines perfectly aligned, your sweep is complete.

It takes a bit of effort to stretch up but it really helped me to see what the right visuals looked like, determine the right sweep and test the stroke by holding position after the shot is taking and seeing the cue stick straight down the line.

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This tool is called *Striking line aiming* and was invented by Gordy V. -- also a certified spf-instructor. Nice guy- already ordered 2 sets of it. Really well worked out idea. Great to *heal* some issues :)
And helps to show some *world champions* how tough it is, to make a perfect stop shot and to develope a repeatable straight stroke :)

The line is very helpful to detect issues-and is a great trainings add for students if they also practice solo.

Really great tool.
 
Pretty cool. I snapped a carpenters chalk line on my table to help see the offset.
 
Man I keep hearing about this offset, and I think I need to watch the DVD again. I'm pretty sure I'm lining up behind the CTEL, which I know you aren't supposed to, but I pocket balls pretty well.

Maybe I can record a video sometime and post it so you guys can tell if I'm doing it the right way.

If I'm doing Pro One wrong now, I'd love to see what I can do if it's done right :)
 
BeiberLvr said:
Man I keep hearing about this offset, and I think I need to watch the DVD again. I'm pretty sure I'm lining up behind the CTEL, which I know you aren't supposed to, but I pocket balls pretty well.

Maybe I can record a video sometime and post it so you guys can tell if I'm doing it the right way.

If I'm doing Pro One wrong now, I'd love to see what I can do if it's done right :)
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You need to see both alignments. CTEL is more of a perception than a strict line.
 
(((Satori))) said:
Is there an objective place to stand or an objective offset angle you need to be at in order to see the visuals correctly? I can stand in a lot of different places and visualize a line going from cte or eta,b,c,or1-7/8.
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There is only one place where the visuals will look right. An simple observation at the table will confirm this.
 
There is only one place that provides the visuals - as you move the visuals have to change as the balls are stationary. I think Stans video helps to demonstrate this.

(((Satori))) said:
Is there an objective place to stand or an objective offset angle you need to be at in order to see the visuals correctly? I can stand in a lot of different places and visualize a line going from cte or eta,b,c,or1-7/8.
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Gerry Williams said:
There is only one place that provides the visuals - as you move the visuals have to change as the balls are stationary. I think Stans video helps to demonstrate this.
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I have seen the video and I got the impression that the player was to line up in line with the visuals which would put you in an offset position relating to the line of the shot. An understanding of where to stand in order to see the visuals from a position that is not directly in line with the visuals, but instead at an offset, is what I am looking to learn.

How do I know that I have the correct visuals if I am not directly in line with them to see them line up?
 
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Yes - the offset position provides the visuals - have you purchased or watched the DVD?

It is clearly described in the video.

(((Satori))) said:
I have seen the video and I got the impression that the player was to line up in line with the visuals which would put you in an offset position relating to the line of the shot. An understanding g of how to stand and visualize the visuals from a position that is not directly in line with the visuals I am looking at is what I seek to learn.
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Gerry Williams said:
Yes - the offset position provides the visuals - have you purchased or watched the DVD?

It is clearly described in the video.
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Of course I have. As I said, when watching the DVD he gives me the impression that I need to be in line with the visuals which will put me in the ideal position that is offset to the shot line.

How do you know you are in the correct offset position if you can't line the visuals up? It seems to me you are simply visualizing the line from cte for example at an angle. Which angle though? There are just as many angles from which to visualize a line from cte as there are "ticks on the ball," or possible contact points if you will. What good is having objective visuals if you view them from a subjective place? If the place from which to view the visuals is not subjective then please explain how to locate this objective place. Again, what do you see?
 
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There is only one position that will provide both CTE lines - that position happens to be offset.

Are you saying that you can see both lines from multiple positions?

(((Satori))) said:
Of course I have. As I said, when watching the DVD he gives me the impression that I need to be in line with the visuals which will put me in the ideal position that is offset to the shot line.

How do you know you are in the correct offset position if you can't line the visuals up? It seems to me you are simply visualizing the line from cte for example at an angle. Which angle though? There are just as many angles from which to visualize a line from cte as there are "ticks on the ball," or possible contact points if you will. What good is having objective visuals if you view them from a subjective place? If the place from which to view the visuals is not subjective then please explain how to locate this objective place. Again, what do you see?
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Gerry Williams said:
There is only one position that will provide both CTE lines - that position happens to be offset.

Are you saying that you can see both lines from multiple positions?
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Yes I can visualize a cte line from many offset positions? There is only one place I can get in line with the cte line though (distance variances excluded). Are you in line with the cte? If not then where is that one place?
 
(((Satori))) said:
Yes I can visualize a cte line from many offset positions? There is only one place I can get in line with the cte line though (distance variances excluded). Are you in line with the cte? If not then where is that one place?
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There is only 1 place that your eyes perceive both lines - that is the position you need to be in.
 
Line up with what?

What you are saying makes no sense - how can you change your eye position behind the cue ball and still maintain 2 objective visuals...think about it.

(((Satori))) said:
Again, I can percieve both lines at the same time from many offset positions if they don't have to line up.
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Gerry Williams said:
Line up with what?

What you are saying makes no sense - how can you change your eye position behind the cue ball and still maintain 2 objective visuals...think about it.
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To make this easy to understand let's just talk about getting one visual, the cte line.

When you are viewing your visual, is your eye position directly in line with the center of the cue ball, and the edge of the object ball is on that same straight line?
 
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(((Satori))) said:
Again, I can percieve both lines at the same time from many offset positions if they don't have to line up.
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That's correct but what's important is that one's focal point at ball address match their visual alignment during full stance. CTE PRO ONE does not limit any one in any way from having to perceive the visuals from a specific location.

Stan Shuffett
 
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