cue ball clos to object ball

West Point 1987 said:
Two things...make sure you're high enough to see the contact point on the OB...the closeness will lie to you when you get down behind the CB every time, so stay up through the whole shot.

Don't cheat yourself with a jabbing, short stroke. Unless they're within a chalk cube's distance apart and the shot's straight in, a normal stroke will still clear the CB at the point of contact. Choking up on the stroke when you don't need to can cause a lot of problems.
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Good points. It is hard to "believe" what you saw standing erect with what you see once you get down. I will make sure I am following through in proportion to the stroke distance. Often these are soft hit shots so both the back stroke and follow through are not very long.

I know some instructors suggest a 6" or even longer follow through for "all" shots. I don't find that practical with a 1-2" back stroke. The instructors I follow most closely recommend roughly equal distance to a maximim of 6-8" on long shots. The break shot is the only one I might extend past about 6".
 
rrick33 said:
It's possible that you're aiming the shot properly; however you may not be allowing for the added throw that occurs when a sliding cue ball contacts an object ball.

Since you're so close, the cue ball does not have time to gather top spin and connects with the object ball sliding on the fabric. This creates added friction and throws the object ball slightly more than a rolling cue ball.

Since you're hitting long shots, the added throw is amplified over the length of the run.
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Yeah, i would say you need to overcut these shots because of throw. The fact that the Cb and OB are close adds throw, and since the OB travels a long way make the throw a bigger problem :)

What can help, is you can is to shoot with higher speed as this help reduce throw. Sometime with these kind of show, we tend to shoot slower than normal, and it increases throw...
 
nfuids said:
Yeah, i would say you need to overcut these shots because of throw. The fact that the Cb and OB are close adds throw, and since the OB travels a long way make the throw a bigger problem :)

What can help, is you can is to shoot with higher speed as this help reduce throw. Sometime with these kind of show, we tend to shoot slower than normal, and it increases throw...
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Yes there is a trade off between reducing the throw and reducing the pocket size vs over cutting to allow for the throw. Those are the variables I am experimenting with. I planned to test Matt's system but have company today so I am stuck playing 8 ball with friends all day. :frown:
 
skipbales said:
Other than employing an "aiming system", are there any special tips on aiming shots where the cue ball and object ball are close together and the pocket is a long distance off.

These seem to appear to be "easy" shots but I tend to miss them more often than make them. I will be setting up some shots and practicing them to try to get the perspective.

What I have trouble with is sighting the shots due to the distance from the hole and closeness of the cue ball. Unlike shots which are more spaced out, I can only see the pocket out of the corner of my eye on these close cue ball shots.
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Try "offset aiming" like 90/90.

randyg
 
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