Cue ball off table?

DrClean

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If the cueball is sent over the cushion and on to the wooden rail, and then back onto the playing surface is it still a foul?
 
If the cueball is sent over the cushion and on to the wooden rail, and then back onto the playing surface is it still a foul?

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I have always played this as a good shot. I've even used this shot to shoot around balls...but I use a lot of luck too.:D
 
Good question, my guess is it would be a foul, but in golf if the same thing happened then the ball would still be in play. In basketball, baseball, or football then it would be out of bounds.
 
no foul

If the cueball is sent over the cushion and on to the wooden rail, and then back onto the playing surface is it still a foul?

Let me quote this:

WPA World Standarized Rules
Definitions:
8.5 Driven off the Table
A ball is considered driven off the table if it comes to rest other than on the playing surface but is not pocketed. A ball is also considered driven off the table if it would have been driven off the table except for striking an object such as a light fixture, piece of chalk or a player which causes it to return to the table.
A ball that contacts the top of the rail is not considered to have been driven off the table if it returns to the playing surface or enters a pocket.
and also
8.1 Parts of the Table
... The table is comprised of rails, cushions, a playing surface and pockets....

In other words:

If the ball leaves the playing surface (table bed) but returns and sets on the playing surface (or in the pocket) and in the course of that action does not contact anything that is not a part of the table (cushions, rails, etc.) it is not a foul. However; in the instance that the ball rolling on the top pf the rail contacts anything (like the piece of chalk lying there) it is instantly a foul shot, even if the ball sets back on table bed afterwards.

Hope it helps.

Regards
 
Let me quote this:

WPA World Standarized Rules
Definitions:
8.5 Driven off the Table
A ball is considered driven off the table if it comes to rest other than on the playing surface but is not pocketed. A ball is also considered driven off the table if it would have been driven off the table except for striking an object such as a light fixture, piece of chalk or a player which causes it to return to the table.
A ball that contacts the top of the rail is not considered to have been driven off the table if it returns to the playing surface or enters a pocket.
and also
8.1 Parts of the Table
... The table is comprised of rails, cushions, a playing surface and pockets....

In other words:

If the ball leaves the playing surface (table bed) but returns and sets on the playing surface (or in the pocket) and in the course of that action does not contact anything that is not a part of the table (cushions, rails, etc.) it is not a foul. However; in the instance that the ball rolling on the top pf the rail contacts anything (like the piece of chalk lying there) it is instantly a foul shot, even if the ball sets back on table bed afterwards.

Hope it helps.

Regards

This is a great resonse to the OP. It states the rule and gives a further explanation. There are no "This is the way we do it", "I think it is...", etc. There seems to be some old guy in a pool hall who is the so called authority (who bends the rules to favor himself) who hasn't a clue about WPA rules.

Of course there are may different pool league rules and posted house rules to be considered based on the situation. The WPA rules are available right here at AZ BIlliards for a couple bucks. Shop here and support this site.
 
Legal in snooker, although the shot where the object ball rolls along the rail into the pocket is the one more likely to be seen on youtube :D
 
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