Cue Collectors Association?

our_auctionguy

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Please help me in contemplating whether an association for cue collectors would be viable?

My vision:

To build an association supported by monthly membership dues based on number of cue records owned and maintained in the association database. Imagine the ability to enter a cue's attribute data one time and transfer ownership of that record with the transfer by sale or trade of that cue. The cue information would only need to be modified if the cue was modified, so many of the attributes of the cue would remain the same throughout it's lifetime except for condition, newer pics, and ownership information as it changed. If a member/collector sells or trades a cue, the only information to change would be the added record of the new owner and the selling price. The new owner would then be able to change the attributes of the cue and display properties making the cue publicly viewable or privately viewable depending upon his personal preferences.

The association would basically be maintaining records as an Application Service Provider (ASP) on an internet database server and providng secure connections to the members.

I have been pondering the viability of forming such an association with other technical and investing members to help in building and running the system as the ASP where staff is paid for their development and maintenance services from the Dues, and Investors paid from quarterly profits. I envision a system that may provide production cues being listed only in a separate and specific database category supported by retailers so as not to mix search or management capabilities between "one of a kind" (collector) and "production" cues. The latter would be an added avenue for the general public to find advertised production cues by model and retailer, plus added revenue for the Association. This would help subsidize the system costs so collector members would pay less for their per record maintenance dues.

The collectors database provided would have key features that allow lookup by any number of attributes.

The system should provide write access to the owned database records by the cue's owner in which image uploads, and descriptors such as cuemaker, date made, weight, length, wrap colors and type, component features such as joint material and size, component weights, balance point, woods used at each section, ferrule composition and shafts diameters, etc are all available as attrubutes of the specific cue's record.

Purchase pricing and sales pricing information would be available as well, with the viewability properties dictated by the current owner. This means the selling price may or may not be viewed by others, but the historical selling price of the cue for each past sale would now be available for view by the new owner.

Each of the records in the database would have ownership history again privately viewable by only the current owner and updated when the ownership transfers to another member or non-member.

Section privacy attributes for each record would be configurable by the owner to allow or deny public display on search, member only display, or owner only display.

In other words, the ability to catalog all of our beutiful cues once and for all would be made available. This would enhance the ablity for someone to find a specific cue or list of cues that fall within specific search criteria basically in the same manner you can search for real estate on an MLS system.

I have been keeping this idea under wraps like most would wanting to privatize it for sheer profit. However, I do not have the financial or 100% of the technical capabilities to do the whole enchilada by myself. I am pretty much limited to the database design and development backend and some of the user interface development. I would entertain the joining of financial and technical resources to get this off the ground and flying if such exists and the concensus is that such an offering would support or enhance a need.

Now it's your turn..............
 
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our_auctionguy said:
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I have been keeping this idea under wraps like most would wanting to privatize it for sheer profit.

Now it's your turn..............
Although a great idea, I think it's market applicability as set forth (and in light of the timing) is very small. The niche market you are targeting is, in my estimate, pretty limited in numbers. This database might be an excellent value added service for some other project, but I'm not convinced that it could exist as the profit center itself. Especially if you consider the true number of collectors vs non-collectors (i.e., pool players with a few cues).

Using car collecting, baseball card collecting, coin collecting, art collecting, stamp collecting, etc as various benchmarks, the profit center for a database revolves around keeping track of "everything" (meaning the truly collectible pieces) and offering that resource to a large consumer base. The keys here are (1) accumulating accurate data and (2) having someone to sell that data to.

I do agree that if you could compile a resource of all the Bushkas, Botis, Rambows, on down to Blacks, Motteys, Scruggs, etc, etc, with cue pictures, owners, provenance, and the like, some collectors might purchase that. But how many "memberhsips" you sold (financial gain) vs work required to compile the database seems disproportionate. It could take years to get the database "complete" enough to market.

If you decide to pursue this, I wish you all the best! But to me, it seems like a labor of love rather than a way to supplement your income ;)

Good luck!

-td
 
I don't think all the collectors will go for it. Many have large collecttions and are pretty private, about there collection. Bragging rights are also private with most of them. Most do not want the general public to know what they own, and so on. The collectors I'm speaking of, spend thousands per year, for cues. Maybe you have a shot at it with the smaller guys who has, 2 or 3 or maybe a few more, but high-end, don't think they would go for it.
Never the less, good luck, and wish you all the best,sir.
blud
 
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