cue grip diameter

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I just returned to playing after a 20 year hiatus. I bought a used cue and it plays OK. The grip feels small and I used grip tape for a tennis racket to beef it up. That helped some. Did the cues in the late 80's have a larger diameter butt than is being used these days? Also, the shaft is too "whippy". I am debating getting a shaft for the cue made, or buying a new cue with a larger diameter butt. Any one have suggestions on how to measure for grip diameter? Any info on shaft construction that I should be looking for? Thanks, John
 
Some of the old style Brunswicks (Hoppe Style) and other simular cues sold in the 60's and 70's did have slightly larger diameter handles. A set of calipers will give you an accurate measurement of the diameter.
 
I used a nice Joss cue back in the day. Could not afford one that was similar to the one I used back then. The grip tape really worked for me, but the look sucks. It also gave the cue a better heft. It only added about .2 ounces, I thought 20 ounces was my favorite weight, but 19.5 may be the new favarite. Maybe the cork bicycle handlebar tape will look nicer. I make my own fishing rods and am considering a cork tape grip from the mudhole custom rod building store. Did not want to use adhesive on the linen wrap, though.
I am saving to have Steve Klapp make me one and will probably just get the wrap doubled or see if he can increae the diameter a hair. I wrapped it with a hemp cord from my daughters craft supplies and that was a hair to big and the hemp felt like s#$t. My hands don't really sweat and a leather or cork wrap, or maybe wrapless is the way to go. I am also wondering about the ferule-less shaft. I really like the clean look with a carbon pad. So many options that were not even thought of back in the day. A little overwhelming. Thanks for the quick respone, John
 
I just returned to playing after a 20 year hiatus. I bought a used cue and it plays OK. The grip feels small and I used grip tape for a tennis racket to beef it up. That helped some. Did the cues in the late 80's have a larger diameter butt than is being used these days? Also, the shaft is too "whippy". I am debating getting a shaft for the cue made, or buying a new cue with a larger diameter butt. Any one have suggestions on how to measure for grip diameter? Any info on shaft construction that I should be looking for? Thanks, John

I like the fatter butts myself. Check out as many cues as you can before ordering a custom. If you find a cue that has a comfortable grip and size, take some measurements with a caliper and notes for your builder. Within reason, your builder should be able to taper the butt of the cue to your specs. Same goes with the shafts. Some are gonna tell you that this or that is best for your game. Without test driving the different options, you're not gonna know. Figure out for sure what you like from the different cues and find someone that can incorporate all those things into one. Good Luck.
 
I think the change began in the 70's when some of the cue makers began to recognize that is cue is an instrument and not just an implement. I have been playing for more then 50 years and the first cues I owner were almost like clubs. Even many of the well known production cues back then were not well tuned instruments. You don't have to take my word for it a lot of those cues are still around. Cues like Viking, Palmer, Brunswick just to seemed to be built to knock balls around with what seemed like no real thought to, "Can we build a better playing cue"?. Even many of the cues by Balabushka and Martin were club like.

I think the first cue I owned that I felt was a real instrument was a Gina cue I had made in 1971. People would pick it up and say, "This thing is so thin and flimsy feeling". That was till they played with it for a while and found it made you a better player, the cue became an asset. Joss advanced the move for better playing cues probably more then anyone in my opinion. Cues now mattered, the taper, length, butt diameter materials and so on the goal was a better cue for the customer. I haven't heard someone say in a long time, "If you can play you can play with anything, I saw a guy win with a broom handle". That is not true, the cue can be the difference in closely match competition. I personally saw Parica lose a $5000.00 match and the proposition was he had to use a house cue. Parica made the offer and was sorry he did. He had been playing there all night so I think us rail birds had a pretty good handle on his game that night and the switch to the house cue knocked down his game a good 20%.

No doubt it, the best cues and most technically advanced cues ever built are being built today.
 
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