Cue Weight?

[LibraryFool77]

I think a custom cues weight should be natural to the components. A lot of cues you just add a heavier weight in the butt. Does that really make any sense or just meet an end users belief in what they like. I’ve played w cues naturally weighted from 17-21oz and 18.5 + or minus .25 I’ve found most preferable.

 

[Bavafongoul]

A cue without any weight bolt should be the cue maker’s goal when building a cue you order.
If a bolt is ultimately needed, it should be the lightest material and weigh as little as possible.

When a cue maker uses a bolt weighing 1/2 oz and often much heavier, they missed the target.
It’s why catalog cues typically use heavier bolts so one cue can be used for different wt. orders.

A cue was built to have a fulcrum point & installing a 1/2 oz, 3/4 oz, 1 oz or heaven forbid even
heavier, is ruinous to the cue’s natural balance determined by the components used to build it.

If you wanted a 20+ oz cue, it can be built without having to stick a hunk of metal in the butt.
And if you wanted a 18 oz. cue or 18.5 oz., you really should not require a 1/2 to 3/4 oz.bolt.

Talented cue makers don’t like relying on a bolt so that the finished cue meets the customer’s
requested weight unless the bolt is relatively light. They build a cue to meet what you requested.

My cues use headless weight bolts and the butts of my cues have been cored. This allows me to
actually position within the cue butt smaller & lighter bolts unlike other pool cues using just 1 bolt.

 

[skor]

the components should match the desire weight and balance but most often they don't and weight needs to be added.
It's not just a bolt in the back, the pin itself is a weight bolt and some add weight in the center of the butt as well.
The bolt in the back is not just for weight, it's also for balance.

In most cases with custom cues, when using fancy woods and lots of inlays, the cue turns out to be too heavy in my opinion. 16oz butts are a non players for me... if such cues have a bolt, it's definitely not for adding weight but rather to balance the cue.

 

[LibraryFool77]

the components should match the desire weight and balance but most often they don't and weight needs to be added.
It's not just a bolt in the back, the pin itself is a weight bolt and some add weight in the center of the butt as well.
The bolt in the back is not just for weight, it's also for balance.

In most cases with custom cues, when using fancy woods and lots of inlays, the cue turns out to be too heavy in my opinion. 16oz butts are a non players for me... if such cues have a bolt, it's definitely not for adding weight but rather to balance the cue.

How can you add balance by a weight bolt in the butt. Honestly, in theory those piece of shit Ramen cues five pieces w weights would allow for adjustment. Other theory I don’t get is the liquid weight inside a cue. It’s not the arrow it’s the Indian but if the bow is a pos shit an Indian ain’t hitting a shit.

 

[skor]

let's say the cue is made from ebony or other heavy wood for the forearm, and then a light wood like maple for the handle section, and then the butt end is also ebony but it is a smaller part and less heavy, now add a big metal pin, and you have a cue that might be too front heavy and if you want to balance it that it won't be so front heavy, you add a bolt in the back.

 

[LibraryFool77]

let's say the cue is made from ebony or other heavy wood for the forearm, and then a light wood like maple for the handle section, and then the butt end is also ebony but it is a smaller part and less heavy, now add a big metal pin, and you have a cue that might be too front heavy and if you want to balance it that it won't be so front heavy, you add a bolt in the back.

Skor, agreed. Leveling the weight is different than just making weight.

 

[skor]

another example, you have an all maple cue, but cut into the forearm ebony points and inlays, and add a metal joint like the classic 5/16x14 and again you'll have a front heavy cue. adding a bolt will balance it better.

 

[LibraryFool77]

Again, agreed if leveling. But if I get a weightless Schon, Pechauer, Jacoby, Viking, which I was a previous dealer for. If a consumer wanted a 21oz cue naturally weighted as 18, that imho, screwed up the way the original cue played. I think you are arguing something we bith would agree on. I appreciate your opinion and if I’m missing something, please let me know.

 

[Mensabum]

I think a custom cues weight should be natural to the components. A lot of cues you just add a heavier weight in the butt. Does that really make any sense or just meet an end users belief in what they like. I’ve played w cues naturally weighted from 17-21oz and 18.5 + or minus .25 I’ve found most preferable.

Natural of course is best, imo, but make sure the Cuemaker understands exactly what balance point you're looking for, more forward or back. Then they can adjust materials accordingly.