congratulations to you mr. blud!
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CUEMASTERS FINAL LIST..by Blud
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ultra violet finish process
Best wishes in your endeavor.Do you and/or any of your brother cue masters use this new clearcoating finish process.........just interested. sincerely,
Best wishes in your endeavor.Do you and/or any of your brother cue masters use this new clearcoating finish process.........just interested. sincerely,
blud said:
Quote from Nitti website:
With mass produced cues the inlays and points have rounded edges. My inlays have sharp edges. To accomplish this, each inlay must be cut in by hand, a long, tedious, process. The end result is well worth the effort. end quote
Good luck...
Joe
Chris, does carve the tip [ or pointed end] of his points and inlays by hand and is very good at it. I was refering to totally carved hand points. He does not do his inlay point by hand. Just the very points [tips], are done by hand, not the complete pocket or point as it's refered to by most of you folks.
hope this help. Sorry if I mis-lead anyone.
blud
hope this help. Sorry if I mis-lead anyone.
blud
blud said:
Blud,
So we are all on the same page.. Chris, and I am sure most others, is using a pantomill or maybe a cnc set up, then going back and refining the corners. Which I find more than acceptable in the cues that I like to deal. Its also been done this way for a long time, by the masters. This is for the knowledge of the cue buying public also, I am not trying to stir the pot. I admire that you defined and called CNC what it really is in an earlier post. I hope this works out for you and the rest of the guys. I may not agree with some on the choices but hey we all have our favorites.
Best regards,
Joe Van
Hi Joe Van,
Not a problem at all, sir.
I must of mis-lead some folks. Sorry for that.
Some take "by hand" in the wrong text. By hand means just that, building by hand only. Refining the points of a "point" or refining the tip of an inlay as you pointed out, is much differant than hand carving points in a cue.
I also like that style of cue. I really like the deep VEE pointed cues most of all. I sometimes carve the [inlayed], inlay, to a fine point. I am in the process of building several new models of "VEE" pointed cues. I should have them ready around Feb. Check back, and I'll shoot you some pictures. If your interested.
Thanks for your kind words, sir you are a true gent.
blud
Not a problem at all, sir.
I must of mis-lead some folks. Sorry for that.
Some take "by hand" in the wrong text. By hand means just that, building by hand only. Refining the points of a "point" or refining the tip of an inlay as you pointed out, is much differant than hand carving points in a cue.
I also like that style of cue. I really like the deep VEE pointed cues most of all. I sometimes carve the [inlayed], inlay, to a fine point. I am in the process of building several new models of "VEE" pointed cues. I should have them ready around Feb. Check back, and I'll shoot you some pictures. If your interested.
Thanks for your kind words, sir you are a true gent.
blud
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tshot
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Blud,
Congrats on your membership thing you got going. But I think limiting the number is sending out the wrong message. That message being if you are not in this association, you are not good enough. If you hold all members to the high standards and craftsmanship, it shouldn't matter how many members you have as long as they fall under these guildlines. Doing it your way is not fair to some cue makers. It seems more of a good ol' buddy system rather than a respected organization. But good luck in your endeavor.
Congrats on your membership thing you got going. But I think limiting the number is sending out the wrong message. That message being if you are not in this association, you are not good enough. If you hold all members to the high standards and craftsmanship, it shouldn't matter how many members you have as long as they fall under these guildlines. Doing it your way is not fair to some cue makers. It seems more of a good ol' buddy system rather than a respected organization. But good luck in your endeavor.
It's like i said before, when you have a party you don't invite all you know. It's my choice to invite who I wish, just as it would be yours. There are many, many fine cuemakers out there.This club you don't apply for membership, you have to be placed on a ballot by two members, and then your voted in or out at that time.
100% to vote one in....
It's not just a good "old boys system". If you knew me better, sir, you would not feel that way. I am a very fair person. And pride myself at being so...
I gave many cuemakes much thought in the selection process. When it's bigger, you loose a little ground in keeping up to "our" standards. With many cuemakers in a group, it's impossible to have all meet the club's standards.
As far as small, our group, none of our members will have to be questioned about no so good work. . all of us do great work
We don't have dues, meetings and all the BS, that goes along with the bigger associaitons. No need. Were all on the same page.....
There is not a message meaning if your not in this club, your not good enough. BS, again....
We just want a small group, hard to get into. Nothing wrong with that. If you have a small group, and hard to get in, it means they are good craftsman, and do have very good products.
My way is fair. It's my idea and it will be just fine with a limitted number of cuemakers. We are "all" well satisified.
The selection was tough. It's not so easy to get into the ACA, they also have guide strict lines they go by.
Ours is just a smaller group with simuliar goals, as there's.
thanks
blud
100% to vote one in....
It's not just a good "old boys system". If you knew me better, sir, you would not feel that way. I am a very fair person. And pride myself at being so...
I gave many cuemakes much thought in the selection process. When it's bigger, you loose a little ground in keeping up to "our" standards. With many cuemakers in a group, it's impossible to have all meet the club's standards.
As far as small, our group, none of our members will have to be questioned about no so good work. . all of us do great work
We don't have dues, meetings and all the BS, that goes along with the bigger associaitons. No need. Were all on the same page.....
There is not a message meaning if your not in this club, your not good enough. BS, again....
We just want a small group, hard to get into. Nothing wrong with that. If you have a small group, and hard to get in, it means they are good craftsman, and do have very good products.
My way is fair. It's my idea and it will be just fine with a limitted number of cuemakers. We are "all" well satisified.
The selection was tough. It's not so easy to get into the ACA, they also have guide strict lines they go by.
Ours is just a smaller group with simuliar goals, as there's.
thanks
blud
A STATEMENT BY BLUD,,,,
Would you goods folks please name any other cuemker who would do what i did 12 years ago, and do what i am doing now. 12 yrs ago, I set my business aside, to form the ACA. It took me almost two years. Who can you name, that would do the same for his competition?? WHO. Just name one..........
Also, now,what cuemaker would attempt to do what i am doing??? Naming name of new members, and leaving some out. Who do you know in this cuemaking world would do such a thing??? WHO???
I have my life and reputation at stake here. I am doing this for all cuemakers. By having an "elilte" group, it should make all stop and take a good look at who's in our group. hanging out in mid-air for cuemakers. I have not heard a single one bitch about this new club. Only those who sit back and complain that it's not afair. PLEASE..
Would you goods folks please name any other cuemker who would do what i did 12 years ago, and do what i am doing now. 12 yrs ago, I set my business aside, to form the ACA. It took me almost two years. Who can you name, that would do the same for his competition?? WHO. Just name one..........
Also, now,what cuemaker would attempt to do what i am doing??? Naming name of new members, and leaving some out. Who do you know in this cuemaking world would do such a thing??? WHO???
I have my life and reputation at stake here. I am doing this for all cuemakers. By having an "elilte" group, it should make all stop and take a good look at who's in our group. hanging out in mid-air for cuemakers. I have not heard a single one bitch about this new club. Only those who sit back and complain that it's not afair. PLEASE..
Sorry I hit the wrong Key, DUH!.
Please, you folks who are complaining in your own way, please name me a cuemaker who would set his job aside for almost two years to form the ACA. [ they are a fine bunch]...
Now, i am being looked at, by some, who think I am wrong for forming a new club. BS, & again BS..............
They are saying it's not afair to other cuemakers. BS, again....
This club has been formed for all walks of billiard lives. Not just mine or our members. Everyone....
HEY, it's my reputation, livelyhood at stake here, and my money I am spending .
My, b---s are hanging out there, not yours.....I have not had a single cuemakers complain to me that he or she, should of been a member, and is not being treated fair. Not one. Yet, some of the public has it all figured out, and must bitch, no matter how hard i try to help one and all.. PLEASE........
Can any of you folks name another person who would attempt such a thing as this new club.
Think about who this might piss off, and who does not care and again who will be political and when have they have a chance screw me out of whaever.
I say, NONE would screw me out of whatever, and none will be pissed off.
They all have more class than to complain about not being invited.
I thought about this for about two seconds, when I made my mind up to take this own, a couple of years back...
I give the cuemakers a lot of respect and credit. I know they would not be pissed at me or shooting dartsat me, or bitching and or complaining. They have shown me respect and class.........
THEY are PRO'S.......
I sincerly hope this will end the BS, I have had to put up with. [ several private e-mail of complaints], .
I have not singled out anyone. I am just tired of getting hammered on for doing something great for our sport.
Hey, if you can't say something positive about me and it's members, and how I formed this club, PLEASE, say nothing..
I, in no way am trying to get a pissing contest going here, or trying to piss anyone off.
Just look at it from my stand point, Would you like the BS, being fired at you, along with the complaints? Don't think so....
PLEASE, folks, let us all look down the road, and travel it together.
thanks for the support from those who realize what i am doing.
blud
Please, you folks who are complaining in your own way, please name me a cuemaker who would set his job aside for almost two years to form the ACA. [ they are a fine bunch]...
Now, i am being looked at, by some, who think I am wrong for forming a new club. BS, & again BS..............
They are saying it's not afair to other cuemakers. BS, again....
This club has been formed for all walks of billiard lives. Not just mine or our members. Everyone....
HEY, it's my reputation, livelyhood at stake here, and my money I am spending .
My, b---s are hanging out there, not yours.....I have not had a single cuemakers complain to me that he or she, should of been a member, and is not being treated fair. Not one. Yet, some of the public has it all figured out, and must bitch, no matter how hard i try to help one and all.. PLEASE........
Can any of you folks name another person who would attempt such a thing as this new club.
Think about who this might piss off, and who does not care and again who will be political and when have they have a chance screw me out of whaever.
I say, NONE would screw me out of whatever, and none will be pissed off.
They all have more class than to complain about not being invited.
I thought about this for about two seconds, when I made my mind up to take this own, a couple of years back...
I give the cuemakers a lot of respect and credit. I know they would not be pissed at me or shooting dartsat me, or bitching and or complaining. They have shown me respect and class.........
THEY are PRO'S.......
I sincerly hope this will end the BS, I have had to put up with. [ several private e-mail of complaints], .
I have not singled out anyone. I am just tired of getting hammered on for doing something great for our sport.
Hey, if you can't say something positive about me and it's members, and how I formed this club, PLEASE, say nothing..
I, in no way am trying to get a pissing contest going here, or trying to piss anyone off.
Just look at it from my stand point, Would you like the BS, being fired at you, along with the complaints? Don't think so....
PLEASE, folks, let us all look down the road, and travel it together.
thanks for the support from those who realize what i am doing.
blud
Don't mean to be disrespectful Blud, but I personally don't see the point of this, although I wish you well in your (plural) endeavor. If I wanted a cue from one of your members , I would just buy one, what benefit would the group be to myself , Joe cue-buying public? Unless you are getting together to split advertizing costs etc., nothing wrong with that, but I am failing to see the benefit to average pool player, It would be great to see more events put on, but beyond that I am not seeing the point, sorry, no disrespect, and best of luck.. Mick
ChalksBilliards
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Blud, please stop wasting your breath on some of these clowns. Last time I looked this was America, and if you want to start ten more cue maker clubs it is your right to do so.
Good luck with your new venture, I am sure it will be very successful.
Good luck with your new venture, I am sure it will be very successful.
Hi Mickmason,
First, thanks for your respect you have shown me. Very kind of you.
Benefits are this, first, with many cues to choose from today, it creats and requires the cuemakers to bust his butt, to build quality cues. By this happening, you the consumer, have the best of two worlds.
1.- you get quality goods because the cuemaker is up against many others. he must do good work to sells his wares.
2.- you can do a little bargining with more peas in the pod.
You the consumer, has a choice of cuemakers to choose from. Now there are two club's. Most of our members were not active members within the ACA. Only 3 of them are still active members of the ACA.....
Not all the members in our club have attended many tournaments over the past few years. Now they will be attending more. So you can visit all who display, and make your choice.
We, like you, would like to see more events. Our club, will be working very hard to assist and also put own our own tournaments and cue shows,in the future for one and all.
hope to meet you some day, friend
blud
First, thanks for your respect you have shown me. Very kind of you.
Benefits are this, first, with many cues to choose from today, it creats and requires the cuemakers to bust his butt, to build quality cues. By this happening, you the consumer, have the best of two worlds.
1.- you get quality goods because the cuemaker is up against many others. he must do good work to sells his wares.
2.- you can do a little bargining with more peas in the pod.
You the consumer, has a choice of cuemakers to choose from. Now there are two club's. Most of our members were not active members within the ACA. Only 3 of them are still active members of the ACA.....
Not all the members in our club have attended many tournaments over the past few years. Now they will be attending more. So you can visit all who display, and make your choice.
We, like you, would like to see more events. Our club, will be working very hard to assist and also put own our own tournaments and cue shows,in the future for one and all.
hope to meet you some day, friend
blud
Blud, is there a chance of this effecting players north of the border?
I wish you and the group well, good luck.
Kent Mc.
I wish you and the group well, good luck.
Kent Mc.
this is by far a very elite club of cuemakers......anyone interested should take a look at these makers.......they all have different types of cues and do some very very good work......there are alot not on here but given the time i feel you will see different names come and go......we as american have one thing the rest of the world wishes it had....we have the greatest cuemakers right here .....nobody can take them and make them there own.....my only thing is that us as tax paying citizens should not have to suffer prices hikes due to the fact that if we dont want to pay those outrageous prices some cuemakers ask for they will just send them overseas.......if cuemakers want to make overseas buyers pay out of the nose then that fine....but we as a nation give enough help to countries and we should try to bring some of the monies back......i commend the efforts of these cuemakers and there art ....but could you possibly consider giving the U.S. a break........not asking for freebies but for something the average man can afford........can never own a great name cue if the cheapest thing they offer is 2000.00.....keep up the good work all and much sucess to all of you in the cuemaking world......juston coleman
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tshot
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Blud,
I wasn't jumping your case. I don't see where you reputation is on the line, the association you are forming, but not your rep. If you truly place high standards and craftmanship at teh top of your requirements, then the number of members should be a secondary consideration and left open. Otherwise you are telling people that this "elite group" as you put it is the best and the rest are sub par compared to you and your members.
I wasn't jumping your case. I don't see where you reputation is on the line, the association you are forming, but not your rep. If you truly place high standards and craftmanship at teh top of your requirements, then the number of members should be a secondary consideration and left open. Otherwise you are telling people that this "elite group" as you put it is the best and the rest are sub par compared to you and your members.
Hi Blud, thanks for the reply, I also will be looking forward to meeting you, and the other members of your group, maybe valley forge? take care and good luck, Mick
Gabber
Banned
"Benefits are this, first, with many cues to choose from today, it creats and requires the cuemakers to bust his butt, to build quality cues. By this happening, you the consumer, have the best of two worlds."
.So what are you saying? They dont bust their butt,s now?
1.- you get quality goods because the cuemaker is up against many others. he must do good work to sells his wares.
Is that not the case now?
2.- you can do a little bargining with more peas in the pod.
The fact is, you can set prices and restrict the number of cues that come on to the market if you want to.
If you want to start a club,fine. [You still havent explained why you jeft the ACA to start a new one.] Did you have a disagreement?
Anyway, good luck ,I hope things turn out well for you but please,please dont tell us that this is all for the sport or the pool player because it isnt.
Gabber
.So what are you saying? They dont bust their butt,s now?
1.- you get quality goods because the cuemaker is up against many others. he must do good work to sells his wares.
Is that not the case now?
2.- you can do a little bargining with more peas in the pod.
The fact is, you can set prices and restrict the number of cues that come on to the market if you want to.
If you want to start a club,fine. [You still havent explained why you jeft the ACA to start a new one.] Did you have a disagreement?
Anyway, good luck ,I hope things turn out well for you but please,please dont tell us that this is all for the sport or the pool player because it isnt.
Gabber