dendweller
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I had a mcdermott defy with a 3/8 10. Was so hard to get it to thread when it was new I thought I was going to mess it up. Called Seyberts, they told me to use chapstick to lube it up.
Cuetec cynergy
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If something goes awry with your process and his equipment gets damaged, you gonna flip the bill for a new shaft or cue? It's poor advice, IMO. The only way to correctly and safely fix the issue is to cut the correct thread profile.
In this instance, Seybert's recommended tapping it for the correct profile. That should tell you we aren't comparing apples to apples.
dendweller
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Yep, I'd agree, was a different situation. I didn't really like forcing when they were telling me it was the correct thread. Cue guy would probably not charge much to run a tap through it.
not the thread pitch as much as the size of the minor diameter. the modified pin has a much larger minor diameter.
Ok no need to be a smarty pants, It would be the same me asking you are you going to pay for him to go have someone tap it "correctly" to fix his problem? All I am saying is lube goes a long way in many situations lol. It's worth a try but if it still feels like he's forcing it too much then take more extreme measures. If we were talking about wood threads I'd be a bit more concerned, though it would " force on" easier than the nylon like insert that the cynergy has.
Apples to Oranges especially considering Seyberrs offered to run the tap at no charge. Even if he took it to a cue maker, it might be $20 to spin it and tap it. Substantially less than a new shaft.
true, and thats great of Seyberts, real stand up company, their customer service is top notch. And true about the repair guys or cue maker assuming he has a local guy. I know Spitz or Hill would have probably told me to run my shaft by and just done it on the house.
Either way I hope the issue is resolved and IWish gets to enjoy the game with the new setup!
Iwishiwasrich
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Seyberts rep said what garczar is saying, Carmelli and a few other makers pin is just a little bigger. He said it would be no problem to run a tap through it.
I could send it back but feel confident I can handle the job. Sickles custom cues is local and I've known Jim for almost 30 years. He sells his own carbon shaft so I wouldn't feel right asking him to fix a shaft I didn't buy from him.
I ordered a tap from Amazon, will be here tomorrow. Will update after I fix it.
I could send it back but feel confident I can handle the job. Sickles custom cues is local and I've known Jim for almost 30 years. He sells his own carbon shaft so I wouldn't feel right asking him to fix a shaft I didn't buy from him.
I ordered a tap from Amazon, will be here tomorrow. Will update after I fix it.
Again, its still a 3/8(outside diameter)x10 pin but on a 'modified', often called a flat-bottom, the minor(or shank for lack of a better term) diameter is larger. Those pics i posted show this clearly. If it was me i'd switch it out 'cause if you fk it up its your fk up.
Agreed. I'd return it for the correct tapped shaft too.
Iwishiwasrich
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Sending it back was my plan until he said that they would just run a tap through it and send it back. I will call them tomorrow to see if they will exchange it.
That's bs. Cuetec makes a 3/8x10 modified Cynergy. Again, if it was me i'd want the factory-correct version. Seyberts does good work but that's not the point.
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This link is probably the best post I've seen to sell me on the benefits of the 3/8-10 Modified pin. I've not been a fan because the threads seem so shallow but the photos and explanation in this link have given me a new perspective on it. I started out exclusively with 5/16 because I worked on a lot of Meucci cues. I went to 3/8x10 because I liked the larger pin. I then went to Radial. I recently acquired a few Ariel Carmelli cues with 3/8-10 Mod joints and that caused me to re-think the choices.
Thanks for this !
Cuetec does make a shaft for modified and they call it 3/8x10 flat . I am not sure running a tap will fix your problem. I would think running a larger drill to enlarge your minor diameter might do it. Could be wrong, wouldnt be the first time
More wood-to-metal contact on the modified. IDK if they play any different but they do stay tight when you cinch it down. Reg. 3/8x10's sometimes work loose during play.