Custom Cues and Conversions

[peteypooldude]

Recently I have had the itch for a custom made cue so
I have been spending time on the wanted/for sale section and now I
Really don't know what looking for.
Here's a couple questions maybe you can answer.
1 What is a conversion ?
2 Why are some less than 100$ and others a couple grand
3 Do they hit that much better than a Dale Perry or a Predator?

I have a Predator that I've had for about 7 or 8 years and a Dale Perry I can't find a flaw in whether it be hit or quality
Would I really be getting a superior cue?

 

[peteypooldude]

1. A conversion is when a cuemaker starts with a one-piece house cue or an old two-piece and adds/changes a joint (or more) to the cue.

2. Some old house cues are actually getting relatively valuable. Look at the price of the old titlist cues.

3. Hit is subjective...and predators hit like garbage.

dld

I understand that hit is subjective and there are so many custom cue makers
That it seems one could easily buy a custom that does not hit as solid as my Dale Perry.

 

[Kaptivative]

Isn't Dale Perry a custom cue maker?

 

[ctyhntr]

Dale Perry is listed the the blue book of cues, an excellent resource for buying and selling cues.

Super Billiards Expo is coming up next month, and many custom cue makers and sellers will be in attendance. That would be a good opportunity to try cues in person.

Isn't Dale Perry a custom cue maker?

 

[Woofresh]

No... A new expensive cue will not raise your game by much... Route selection and knowing your game well enough to know when to take a safe has a much stronger effect....

It gets to a point where you're paying for rarity...art.... Or name... Maybe materials used...

The hit must feel right to you though... Its a mental process and to have a cue that doesn't give the feedback you want... It can mess with the process...

 

[peteypooldude]

No... A new expensive cue will not raise your game by much... Route selection and knowing your game well enough to know when to take a safe has a much stronger effect....

It gets to a point where you're paying for rarity...art.... Or name... Maybe materials used...

The hit must feel right to you though... Its a mental process and to have a cue that doesn't give the feedback you want... It can mess with the process...

It's has nothing to do with improving my game .
I'm curios if there is a distinct difference in hit of different makers or if their all striving for that "solid" hit

 

[peteypooldude]

Define 'solid' hit.

Is a 'solid' hit one that produces a ping?

Is a 'solid' hit simply one which has no rattles.

You are trying to compare things on ambiguous terms.

The value of any cuestick is based solely on the terms of anyone who buys it--and it boils down to three things:

-People who buy plywood shafts think that LD is going to make them good.

-People who buy for a name think the cue will eventually make them money or noticed.

-People who buy because they like a cue do it only for themselves and their enjoyment.

I define "solid" as - no vibration during a draw shot and a "thud" sound instead of a click or tink. The opposite of a hollow feel.
Make sense?

 

[Banks]

Define 'solid' hit.

Is a 'solid' hit one that produces a ping?

Is a 'solid' hit simply one which has no rattles.

You are trying to compare things on ambiguous terms.

The value of any cuestick is based solely on the terms of anyone who buys it--and it boils down to three things:

-People who buy plywood shafts think that LD is going to make them good.

-People who buy for a name think the cue will eventually make them money or noticed.

-People who buy because they like a cue do it only for themselves and their enjoyment.

I define "solid" as - no vibration during a draw shot and a "thud" sound instead of a click or tink. The opposite of a hollow feel.
Make sense?

Both of those describe most old bar cues I've used - no tinks, clicks or rattles. Oddly enough, some say that cue makers strive for the 'one piece' hit in a jointed cue. To spend $1000+ to replicate the hit of a $10 cue, but maybe with some extra bling, that's always seemed a bit odd to me.

 

[peteypooldude]

DoubleD are you always this happy?
<~~~~~~ Starting to think "D" doesn't like plywood lol
Thanks for the replies lol

 

[jhanso18]

1. A conversion is when a cuemaker starts with a one-piece house cue or an old two-piece and adds/changes a joint (or more) to the cue.

2. Some old house cues are actually getting relatively valuable. Look at the price of the old titlist cues.

3. Hit is subjective...and predators hit like garbage.

dld

^^^pretty much sums up my thoughts on all 3 counts!